The Succeeder Stronghold

[Ravager]

[QUOTE=dragon wench]Less pleasant, but still very effective...
Boil a large pot of water. Grab yourself a nice big towel, and stick your head, covered by said towel over the water. Even better if you add some vapor rub, or similar ingredients to the water as soon as it has finished boiling.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I tried that one before...it had some smelling salts in it or something like that...

[Darzog]

[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]You know every time a women "trains" a guy, a guy out there misses a football game [/QUOTE]
Guess it's a good thing I'm not into football that much. As long as I get to see the Longhorn game I'm good.

[quote="Gunofgod]Potatoes. [/quote]
Rutabagas.

[quote=Ravager]Oh"]
They did it in Crocodile Dundee too. But that was a little expensive.

[dragon wench]

[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]You know every time a women "trains" a guy, a guy out there misses a football game [/QUOTE]

Why should he have to?

IMO, it is all about compromise and being respectful of personal space and needs.
My SO isn't really into sports, but I wouldn't have any issues if he wanted to watch a football game. Just as long as he accorded me the same courtesy were I to hole myself up and game for several hours straight.
As long as both people in the relationship are sharing the various things that need to be done...cooking and other domestics, why shouldn't there be things like football? I don't see the big deal myself.

[JonIrenicus]

Darzog, til' death do you part. So when you lose your manhood, you are considered dead

[Gunofgod]

[QUOTE=Ravager]Oh, I tried that one before...it had some smelling salts in it or something like that...[/QUOTE]

Boil yourself a pot of potatoes!

[JonIrenicus]

[QUOTE=dragon wench]IMO, it is all about compromise and being respectful of personal space and needs.[/QUOTE]

I was just playing around there DW :laugh:

But in all seriousness respect is the number one thing in any relationship

[Darzog]

Well, what if he wanted to spend all day Sunday, every Sunday (from September through January) glued to the TV from about noon until after 9pm? That's what some guys try to do..... watch all games and put it as a higher priority than their SO or family.

And my wife and I get along pretty well and share responsibilities as well as alone time. But I draw the line at 'So You Think You Can Dance'. That deserves nothing but mocking and derision.

[shana]

[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]You know every time a women "trains" a guy, a guy out there misses a football game [/QUOTE]

Thank God, for ESPN Classic!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm gone for a while!!

[Darzog]

I was looking at something the other day, and discovered that the SS is about to pass the SF in # of posts... I think we should close the SS and start a new thread. That way we can come up with all new things to whine about.

[dragon wench]

[QUOTE=Darzog]Well, what if he wanted to spend all day Sunday, every Sunday (from September through January) glued to the TV from about noon until after 9pm? That's what some guys try to do..... watch all games and put it as a higher priority than their SO or family.[/QUOTE]

Hmm... Okay, that's probably overkill. I think I'd try and find compromise by suggesting he is free to watch his favourite team whenever they play, but beyond that we negotiate based on whatever other needs are pressing

Seriously though,
I do think couples need to work out respect for personal needs and privacy. I know I'd go nuts if I didn't have "alone time." I feel it is really unhealthy for couples to be perpetually joined at the hip (I can think of better ways to be joined )
I mean... I kid not, I once knew a pair that owned exactly one set of house keys between them. They went out at exactly the same times.. and basically did *everything* together...
I guess.. if that works for people then great, but I know I'd rather be single than have to put up with that. *shudders*

[Juniper]

[QUOTE=Darzog]I was looking at something the other day, and discovered that the SS is about to pass the SF in # of posts... I think we should close the SS and start a new thread. That way we can come up with all new things to whine about. [/QUOTE]

ohhhh...think that would inspire a new way of thinking? :laugh:

[Darzog]

Yeah, I know people like that... it's crazy. But for them maybe that's the way it works.

So maybe you can explain this to me....
My wife likes to read and usually reads during her 'alone time'. I like to play computer games (I also read but that usually isn't my major alone time). She gets frustrated that I spend so much time in the computer room and would rather I read in the living room with her. Her reasoning? We're together, so it's 'quality time'. But we're both reading separate books, ignoring each other. How is that better than me being in the other room playing a game and ignoring her?
So now we have a nice leather recliner in the office and if she thinks just being in the same room makes that much of a difference she can come in and read in the office.

[Fiona]

I was in a supermarket today and I got all exercised about cheese. I like cheese.All sorts of cheese (except gjetoste -sp?). But I think this brought home to me the idiocy of what is called "choice" People here like cheddar cheese. Cheddar cheese which comes from Somerset, and even from Mull, is seriously good eating. I have long been accustomed to being offered Irish cheddar and for some reason Canadian cheddar is also common. I never really thought about it before.But today it struck me what a truly ridiculous idea that is. Unpasteurised cheddar from England is a great thing, and worth importing. Scottish cheddar can be great, and at least it is local.What is the point in importing inferior (or even equal) quality cheese from overseas?

I am happy to eat gorgonzola from Italy because so far nobody here makes a comparable cheese. Same with parmesan, though there is an exceedingly good pecorino made in Wales, so I see no need to bring that in from Italy. Basically a regional speciality which is better than a home grown substitute makes some sense to me ( I am not so green: and I like food); but there is something far wrong when Monterey Jack is on offer in a Glasgow supermarket. Or am I missing something?

[Darzog]

Maybe it's cheaper? Maybe it makes the store look more worldly and sophisticated to have so many choices.

But on a similar note, why do American stores offer any cheese besides Kraft Singles.... I mean that's about as good a slice of cheese as you can get anywhere so why offer anything else?

[Fiona]

[QUOTE=Darzog]Maybe it's cheaper? Maybe it makes the store look more worldly and sophisticated to have so many choices.

But on a similar note, why do American stores offer any but Kraft Singles.... I mean that's about as good a slice of cheese as you can get anywhere so why offer anything else? [/QUOTE]

If it is cheaper then that makes no sense. Transport costs should ensure that is impossible, and if not, why not?

And as for choice.....there are lots and lots of really good British and Irish cheeses which are hard to come by because there are few specialist cheese shops and the scale of production is relatively small. Why cant they stock whatever is produced locally, plus the real quality cheddars (which are certainly more expensive than the factory produced stuff but that is because they are made of food); and the best of the foreign cheeses which we don't have local versions of, or which are better?

And on a related point: I cannot cope with a whole aisle of products for washing clothes. I haven't passed my test for living in the 21st century......Take it awaaaayy

[JonIrenicus]

[QUOTE=Darzog]So maybe you can explain this to me....[/QUOTE]

Yeah it is your time. Do whatever you want with it

I think she wants to be by your proximity more. I take the computer isn't in the bedroom?

[Juniper]

[QUOTE=Darzog]But on a similar note, why do American stores offer any cheese besides Kraft Singles.... I mean that's about as good a slice of cheese as you can get anywhere so why offer anything else? [/QUOTE]

Ohhh please tell me your kidding....

[dragon wench]

[QUOTE=Darzog]Yeah, I know people like that... it's crazy. But for them maybe that's the way it works.

So maybe you can explain this to me....
My wife likes to read and usually reads during her 'alone time'. I like to play computer games (I also read but that usually isn't my major alone time). She gets frustrated that I spend so much time in the computer room and would rather I read in the living room with her. Her reasoning? We're together, so it's 'quality time'. But we're both reading separate books, ignoring each other. How is that better than me being in the other room playing a game and ignoring her?[/QUOTE]

I can't explain that at all... Probably because my SO is similar in that regard

I think this is a generally common view of non gamers though. As a related example, I have a friend who delights in reading some of the trashiest, romantic fantasy imaginable.. Yet she looks down on my interest in playing fantasy-based RPGs....

Okay, not exactly the same, since your wife reads in the office, but even so

Let's face it.. us gamers are the down trodden and stigmatised....

[JonIrenicus]

But on a similar note, why do American stores offer any cheese besides Kraft Singles.... I mean that's about as good a slice of cheese as you can get anywhere so why offer anything else?

Well I live right next to Wisconsin so I as much cheese I want (of thousands of cheese) and the best water on earth

[Juniper]

[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]Well I live right next to Wisconsin so I as much cheese I want (of thousands of cheese) and the best water on earth [/QUOTE]

But man cannot live on cheese & water alone