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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:01 am
by QuenGalad
Actually, from a roleplaying standpoint, Thax is the only dragon it makes sense to put traps around. You get the shadow stone from the girl's ghost and she tells you it will shroud you from the dragon, so it's perfectly logical to use snares with that advantage. And the dragon does not see you, does not speak to you. Firkragg, on the other hand, does, so trapping him is another matter.

Every player has his own limits. Some consider reloading cheesy. Others play with 'no resurrection' policy, others without certain items. Just do what feels right, don't do what feels wrong. Whipping up an Universal Cheese Theory With Encyclopaedic Definitions is pointless, and makes me wish i had a camembert in my fridge. ;)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:41 pm
by RPGguy
QuenGalad wrote:Actually, from a roleplaying standpoint, Thax is the only dragon it makes sense to put traps around. You get the shadow stone from the girl's ghost and she tells you it will shroud you from the dragon, so it's perfectly logical to use snares with that advantage.
I would have to agree and concede that, on that basis, I have indeed shot off my mouth.

Apology to Kerosene.

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:16 pm
by Kerosene
Haha, don't worry RPGguy, it's all good. :)

But I still think I could have defeated it without the snares. My B/M uses berserk (so Dominate or whatever the spell is called doesn't effect him), starts attacking the dragon, if it Stoneskins its self, just get rid of it with Breach or Dispel Magic. While the dragon's attacking my B/M I'd get my K/T to attack it, and he does a lot of damage, or maybe a good amount of damage over a quick amount of time with the Belm. And with haste, it attacks like crazy.

Also, I didn't read anywhere how to kill Thaxfeijahwighr (Whatever that freakin' dragons name is).

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:21 pm
by Kerosene
This is the way I look at cheesing...

Stealing a bit what QuenGalad said, :p , Thax is really the only dragon that you can fairly put traps around. And that is one of the reasons I put traps around it.
With Firkraag, I just got Protection Against Fire scroll, used Stoneskin, Mirror Image, Haste, and that was basically it.
There's a lot of definitions and limits for players with cheesing, like another person posted here said. My limit is just basically using everything to your advantage. If using everything to your advantage is called cheesing, you might as well take out half of the spells in Baldur's Gate.

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:54 am
by Wulf
I'm not amazed about the lack of stealth, once again. When I played BG2 the first time, it was brand-new, and there were no walkthroughs available.

After the initial disappointment (if you know the original BG very well, BG2 is a downer in many ways), I decided to continue my imported thief character anyway, and I used the thief's approach, especially for new areas:

Set snares and have reinforcements waiting in a strategic area, then scout ahead and if things get dodgy, run back to safety. It's a slow approach but it works most times. It's a favoured role-playing approach of mine: We're in a very dangerous area, let's not run in there carelessly. The bones that are scattered all over the place used to belong to mindless, charging fighters, or so it seems. We have brains, though.

Also, I agree with Crenshinibon (now, where have you heard that name before? :D ) that understanding the game's mechanisms is really important.

Using the mechanisms in a balanced way is how you can fine-tune your experience.