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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 3:27 pm
by Aqua-chan
Originally posted by kopywrite

Apologies if this isn't how you've seen this but Chloe isn't gnomethingy's npc (oh the irony :) ), she's a npc being worked on at the moment by someone called Lucythebeast.
I know. I'm not *that* dense. ;)

I guess my wording of that last sentance was a little off-wind. My bad. :p

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 3:32 pm
by kopywrite
Originally posted by Aqua-chan
I know. I'm not *that* dense. ;)
Oops, I'm the one being dense. My most sincere apologies :) :) :)

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 3:35 pm
by Aqua-chan
Originally posted by kopywrite

Oops, I'm the one being dense. My most sincere apologies :) :) :)
Don'tn worry 'bout it. I'm the one with the reputation for being ditzy.

...And I'm dang proud of it! :rolleyes: :D

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2002 10:24 pm
by gnomethingy
: P


Like I said, there be two npcs being made now.. pretty much all banter has been done for a cn m bard, ive done alot of banter and backround as well for a gc f swashy.. as yet she has no name, other than yoshimos doom

I still have very little idea what to do for the swashy, but I think ill boot up the old bg1 and take a few hints from that halfling theif everyone seems to love so much

Senhaar, the bard will be available much sooner becouse somone else is writing the interparty banter for me and the cre, item files biography and stats are already done.. yay. I can concentrate on getting romance dialogues on paper. I can say alot more about Senhaar than the swashy, for one.. Jaheira will try to kill him, Keldorn will try to kill him, Mazzy will try to kill him, Imoen will probably try to kill him in tob, Sarevok will also try to kill him.
Thats alot of people.. But all murders will be preventable by the pc
You wont be able to romance Viconia if he is in the party, its not a hear'dalis thing.. its much stranger
Aerie will threaten to leave if you dont get rid of him but it can be avoided. Having this guy in the party will couse mo tension, and the pc will have the mediate things to make sure nothing gets out of hand, which I think will be good for rpers.
This char is basicly a meaner and more depressed version of Xan and will get along with any who isnt cheerfull or smarmy, if your pc is cheerfull however, there will be a suprise.. here are some banters I got in an email, any feedback would be apreciated

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“What, Balance!? So you say you are a creature of nothing. Do not then taint me with your tedium! You
horrible little nonentity”
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“Get thee from my sight at once, you crippled hamstrung creature, more pitiable than truly offensive”
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"Why you bother healing your comrades is beyond me, human lives are an inexuastible commodity. New lackeys can be aranged"
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"I tried to drown my sorrows in drink, but it has given only transient surcease drawing me into its clutches as a hopeless slave"
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"there is no pleasure akin to embracing the ghastly midnight of rotting creation"

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:35 am
by Littiz
I think your NPCs will be too evil for my likings...
I think I'll leave them where they stand! :D

Too bad, I wanted a swashy......

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 6:13 am
by Rattman
i would have though that a bard comedian would be better and he could crack jokes at all the baddies, a jester if you will, also it would be fun to have in your team just to see what they will say to certin baddies

it would take good writing tho for the joke sto be made well

i think i would be good at making a NPC but then again i think to much and have to much time on my hand because college is finnished, i mean i am only typeing this for something to do i am soooo bored

i might walk the dog again :(

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 6:51 am
by serjeLeBlade
What now? my lucky day has come?
:)
Senhaar looks amazingly interesting....
Should him actually turn out like it seems from the prewiew, i will definitely want him in my group.

And I will start seriously considering to play a female PC (for the fisrst time) just to try his romance. If any. (I hope so!)

Go gnomethingy go!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 8:25 am
by Aqua-chan
I think I'll just stick with my snooty, over-sarcastic Tiefling, thanks. Half of the charactors I want in my party will eventually try to kill him it seems...

As for the swashy, it would be a good idea to take lessons after Alora, but don't duplicate her, k? If anyone ever wants to make somebody after Alo, then they just as well make an Alo MOD. (And, if they do, somebody better tell me. I want that Thief!!!)

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 9:13 am
by gnomethingy
The reason for Senhaars attitude ... He was at one point a preist of lethander and something he wont talk about coused him to go mad, he lost his faith and sense of duty changed his name and fled his family and friends.. the reasons will be delved into during the romance, he is not meant to be evil.. just manic and unhinged, the chaps on the technical side are laying state intoxicated and fatigue triggered dialogues in which he gets very upstet and narky with the pc / other party members.. there isnt a nice side to his madness though, so dont expect it.. he will swing from suicidaly depressed to overbearing and nasty, there arnt any other options unless the romance suitably advances
He isnt a pc for the male chars, as he will be very troublesome if your trying to romance Aerie or viconia though not in a hear'dalis way..
I have washed my hands of the swashbuckler, somone else is writing her dialogues now but I actually think she will be finished first... the dialogue looks ok so far, but my depressive bard is better so : P to all you theif lovers.. the swashbuckler in questions name is Cyreist and will be ng human female.

Here is a Senhaar romance dialogue.. it shows that he isnt really evil.. just slightly crazed

“I am lost in myself and that you seem to bore through me apealing to my very self that is clouded,
troubled by sensitive shadows writhing within hands that are not hands. Cold winds brush my hopes and
make them flicker high, yet still I see something in you grow beyond the worlds and reach up to dizzy
vacua above the spheres of light and darkness its forming heralded by maddening beating of drums and
the thin, monotonous whine of blasphemous flutes its esscense pouring out from inconceivable unlighted
chambers beyond time. In the revolting graveyard of the universe behind that detestable pounding and
piping wherunto dance slowly, arkwardly and absurdly the gigantic tenebreous ultimate gods. Beyond
even this the blind, voiceless, mindless gargoyle whose soul is bhaal rests, to whom my salvation is kin”

Spoiler... This contains spoilers for the npc and also the game soa






Things ultimatums that have come my way state that..
a) he is utterly incompatible with imoen
b) he is incompatible with lg anomen
c) he will couse Valygar to become incompatible with nalia, edwin, Aerie and the pc if they are a mage.. unless he joins after the planar quest is completed
d) he will not go into the planer sphere or the planar prison, he will leave the party if they plan to
e) he is incompatible with edwina

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 9:23 am
by serjeLeBlade
Oh well... whathavewegot here... A bard from Call of Cthulhu? ;)

(but... :confused: shouldn't that former-priest thing imply dual-classing?)

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 9:36 am
by gnomethingy
ha! Well... that I did not expect, the dialogue is very influenced by late 20th early 21st century horror notably lovecraft... but hey, you want despair and mandess, go the the source I say. Mind you, its mostly embryotic, thats a fair way into the romance and is a long way from being written *written* so it may well change, and will definatly change if i get alot of bad feedback.. so speak yer minds ppl


ahh.. I considered duel classing, but does not a preists spells rely on the channeling of his deities power? Would one who has lost his faith and renoucned his god not loose said powers?

btw.. I hope your not talking about the pnp call of cthulhu, couse I have never played, nor do I know anything about it save the name

Lol.. i might change his name of Abdul ben martu and give him a "find the seven stair, seven gates.. wake the dead so that they may outnumber the living" quest... he he he, that gives me an idea..........................Muwhahahahah!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:04 pm
by ARcheR_S_
Guys.......I dont want to be annyoing.....but there are allready 2 Thief characters in progress.......namely Scarab and Callista.

Check here: http://hometown.aol.com/dannyco9/calscar.html



I do like Rattman's Idea though (comedian, Jester??)

IMO a good "friend" (human, Ranger/Cleric - Thief/Cleric??)
would be cool (check my earlier post for explenation)


-ARcheR_S_

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:19 pm
by gnomethingy
: P To scarab and callista, and I knew aboot them anyways, there both assasin.. not enough theif points if you ask me, but hey if the char is sound, let it not be said that I am a power gamer


Here are more senhaar dialogues... some of the last I will show, but Aside from two.. i think there vague enough to not be spoilerish

“And fates again label me preist, worshiper and servant. Humbled in spirit I am before you. For while with swords and spells, we who follow you are usefull it is your indomitable will that promises us ultimate victory. my life is your coin, spend it as you choose, I would rather die for you than live for myself”

“The evil display there true nature on the outside, the good hide it within there soul”

“I do not fear you, whelp. disgust is not cowardice, you must learn the difference between those who avoid you for fear and those who simply avoid you”

“Tarry not then, Aerie on darkly splendid worlds for there lay aluring and faithless depths, and you are dreaming. Tarry not then in the places of the minds construction, where peices of your heart lay lost forever in the past, for you are thinking. Of other worlds, stricken of knowledge and name, formless and meritless
and these worlds grant only woe and toubles to those who tread therapon”

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:27 pm
by gnomethingy
btw.. once its cleaned up ebit this will prolly be the portrait, unless the entire universe aligns against me

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:03 pm
by The Z
This is way off topic, but since this thread is about NPC's: Is the Imoen relationship finished yet?

@gnomethingy: The portrait's great ;) , and like you said, once it gets cleaned up.......

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:06 pm
by ARcheR_S_
I like the portrait......I was allways thinking about giving it to my own NPC........but its a real cool one........seen the larger potrait of it by the way??

The picture of "crown" (thats the name).....is pretty cool to.......if u guys want it......just say so :)



-ARcheR_S_

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:21 pm
by Rattman
i hope there is comedy and at least some scarsam in his talking or i will be forced to "worrie" some goats!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 10:49 pm
by jcompton
Originally posted by The Z
This is way off topic, but since this thread is about NPC's: Is the Imoen relationship finished yet?
I believe Return to Windspear is Quitch's top priority.

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:26 am
by serjeLeBlade
To "senhaar team" (I'm implying something like a "senhaar team" does exist, people working on the mod I mean). Translates to "to gnomethingy" otherwise

Please, add some example of possible pc reply options to senhaar "dialogues"!!!
How can you call tehse line "dialogues" at all (and ask for comments) otherwise?
...Are you aware you've got to write the pc part of the "dialogues" as well?
;)

...or I'm supposed to provide it by myself typing it on keyboard runtime?

I'm seriously willing to help you "test" your senhaar-npc and I have a seriously-made female pc in mind.
Just give me the options, the game has to work that way in the end...

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2002 4:38 am
by Coot
Gnomethingy: I'm VERY interested in Senhaar. The game needs a bard. And HD isn't a bard. He's a pest.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about the swashy. How's that coming along?