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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2002 2:34 pm
by Quitch
Thanks to a certain cunning logic, sexual abuse is crueler than murder. A bit like the way in which murdering someone of one age is acceptable in Europe, but killing children is not, though you can kill Aerie when pregnant.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2002 6:01 am
by aragornchewi
Just wondering

Is this mod already has a ToB part???

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2002 6:24 pm
by Aqua-chan
Originally posted by Quitch
though you can kill Aerie when pregnant.


I agree with Quitch's musings. :)

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:44 am
by Littiz
Come on, Quitch, it's human, the murder of a child is more shocking

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:28 am
by Quitch
Not to me. Child, adult, they're still dead.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:22 pm
by kopywrite
Yup, double standards abound in society...

Aphril (spelling?) being dropped from the European version of the spellhold confrontation...very strange.

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 5:08 am
by Littiz
Not to me. Child, adult, they're still dead.

But when they were still alive, reality had a different impact
on them.
And kids have a higher... role, in the world.
I think they should be preserved with the HIGHEST priority.
(yet another young girl killed in Italy....)

BTW, Kopywrite, you have to be right, I never heard of that Aphril!
:confused: :confused:

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 5:16 am
by Alson
Aphril is the little girl in Spellhold that sees thing from other planes (a la "The Sixth Sense" :D ).

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 8:57 am
by Quitch
Originally posted by Littiz
But when they were still alive, reality had a different impact
on them.
And kids have a higher... role, in the world.
I think they should be preserved with the HIGHEST priority.
(yet another young girl killed in Italy....)

BTW, Kopywrite, you have to be right, I never heard of that Aphril!
:confused: :confused:


Then at what age does someone become less valued by society? Considering you can have abortions, at what age does concern for well-being start? The only reason I see for age is due to life left to live, therefore are successful people to be mourned more than ones who did not achieve so much? Why is it more acceptable to murder one age group than another?

What a class society you would impose upon us.

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 12:22 pm
by Littiz
It's easier, Quitch.
In my ideal world, aged people THEMSELVES would hold kids as the
greatest treasure. It's not an imposition.
In my ideal world ALL parents (as mine) would work not just for them,
but mainly to grant to their sons the happiest life they can.
No doubt.. should ALL work this way, even aged people would last
longer and happier.

Oh, I'm against abortion, of course. You take your risks when you...
have fun, killing in the process (killing, yes) is pure egoism.

(Sym calls....)

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 1:38 pm
by Quitch
So in your ideal world the older you get the less valued you become? We have that, it's called western civilisation.

Wow, so much to look forward to, knowing that with each passing day your death becomes more acceptable in the eyes of others.

Ah, against abortion. So rather than having the child killed, you would consign it to a live of torture with a family that doesn't want it, or packed off to an orphanage where the odds are immediately stacked against it, and the chances of it becoming a burden on the rest of society increase dramatically?

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 4:43 am
by Littiz
Each passing day death should be more acceptable in YOUR OWN eyes.
Civilization couldn't change nature's laws, so far.
But we have the conscience to understand the flow of things and change our perspectives.
Ah, against abortion. So rather than having the child killed, you would consign it to a live of torture with a family that doesn't want it, or packed off to an orphanage where the odds are immediately stacked against it, and the chances of it becoming a burden on the rest of society increase dramatically?
Yes.
I have grass outside my home growing almost on rocks..
"Things" like to live.
He could even be more capable of his incautious parents and live a successful life..

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 8:33 am
by fable
This is the second time this topic has veered into areas best explored in the SYM (Speak Your Mind) category. I already cautioned once, but the content just seems to draw out non-BG2, highly emotive issues. I'm closing it. Any further discussion of rape, the relative value of a child's death, etc, should be under SYM. Thanks.