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Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 9:07 am
by MitchMc
Originally posted by dragon wench
For me that was the toughest battle of the entire game. Though the twisted rune is challenging too But worth it... you get a very nice staff out of the deal... [/b]
The twisted rune*, can be easly accomplished by a low level party as soon as you get the mage strong hold and do the slavers quest,
its all a matter of tactics and swag
Cheers MitchMc
*wiemers improved version for sure, I havent played the vanilla version that I can remember.......

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 1:01 pm
by dragon wench
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:00 pm
by dragon wench
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:03 pm
by Scayde
Originally posted by dragon wench
lol! *hug* well that is your call, but getting some of those items first might be worth it as well
You can also get a very nice item if you go into the pub in the City Gates area.. have your thief on "detect traps" mode.. and the wall will reveal a secret door..
Oh I already did that...It was quite by accident, but well worth it.....and great practice for the kangaxx quest..
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 3:00 pm
by Aubrey
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:23 pm
by Scayde
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:33 pm
by Bloodstalker
You get different strongholds based on the class you chose to play as. Some are pretty cool, but a couple just plain suck

Who'd wanna be a paladin anyway though
Twisted Rune ate me for luch the first time I tried it

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:41 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Scayde
This is something I hear about but have yet to pick up on and understand......what exactly do you mean by "Chapters"......is that where they play the little intro with a narrator telling you what is going on?
Yes. It's a feature that first began with Betrayal at Krondor.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:49 pm
by Scayde
Originally posted by fable
Yes. It's a feature that first began with Betrayal at Krondor.
Thanks fable....is there any way I can find out which chapter I am on, given that I have not been paying close attention to these 'shorts'
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:06 pm
by VonDondu
To see which Chapter you're in, look in your Journal (click on the third button from the top on the lefthand side of your screen).
Without giving you any major spoilers, the Chapters are as follows:
Chapter One takes place in Irenicus's dungeon and Waukeen's Promenade. The theme of the chapter is that you need to escape from your captor and get your bearings. As soon as you enter the Slums District and talk to Gaelan Bayle, Chapter Two begins. The theme of the chapter is that you need to raise a bunch of gold and pay someone to take you to Spellhold. As soon as you make a deal with Aran Linvail or Bodhi, Chapter Three begins. The theme of Chapter Three is that you need to get involved in the guild war. When your tasks are complete, you leave for Spellhold, and Chapter Four begins. Chapter Five takes you somewhere besides Spellhold and Athkatla, and Chapter Six begins when you head back to Athkatla. Chapter Seven is the final chapter. In Chapters Four and Five, you can't go to areas that were accessible in Chapters Two and Three until you reach Chapter Six, so pack a lunch.
As for the scroll of Freedom, I meant that I can only think of one place where you can get one. (Actually, there are about four available from the same merchant.) I wish I could help you, but I just can't think of another place to buy one (or find one). Have you checked the merchants in Trademeet?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:16 pm
by JackOfClubs
I would try the checking at the various temples. I don't believe there are any merchants that sell Freedom scrolls other than the ones in Chap 5 & 6 that VonDondu already mentioned. It is a 9th level spell, so it stands to reason that the scrolls wouldn't be readilly available. But I'm not absolutely certain...
SPOILER about the Twisted Rune (highlight to read):
If you do decide to go after the Twisted Rune, you will need a rogue stone to get through the door. I would advise getting the one from the Guarded Compound in the Temple district, since it is seems to be specifically designed for this quest. Also, that will give you another major battle to fight first, which will better prepare you for the TW.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:30 pm
by Galuf the Dwarf
Ahhh, they're not that bad, Bloodstalker.
Originally posted by Bloodstalker
You get different strongholds based on the class you chose to play as. Some are pretty cool, but a couple just plain suck
Who'd wanna be a paladin anyway though
Twisted Rune ate me for luch the first time I tried it
Well, the Pally I took from BG1 and made into a Cavalier seems to kick quite a bit of but, having 19 for Str, Con, and Cha, 17 to Dex and Wis, and 10 Int. Never before have I seen Mind Flayers wish they had day jobs(with some challenge), ever! Really made my day when I saw that. Funny, that class just seems to work the best for me in the entire series and in IWD2 as well. I hope this kinda helps you feel a little better about pallies, okay?
Still, what class have you had the best luck with? Do you prefer warriors, or do have better games with any other classes?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:41 pm
by VonDondu
Originally posted by Aubrey
@ VonDondu:
Have you played Weimer's Improved Liches and Kangaxx? (Someone else has worked on this, I believe, but the file is on Weimer's mods web page.)
Unfortunately, I haven't tried them. It has actually been quite a while since I've played Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, and either the MODs weren't available back then, or I wasn't sure how "balanced" they were. Sometimes, fans who create MODs get a little carried away. I once tried Improved Illyich and Improved Demogorgon, and I just couldn't handle it.

I'm not the best player in the world, but I could probably use a little more challenge the next time I play, and there are actually several MODs I would like to try. If I can figure out which MODs can be installed with other MODs without creating complications, I'll give them a try sometime.
Sorcerer's Net lists several MODs I'd like to install: Ascension, Ease-of-Use, Redemption, Item Upgrade, Tactics, Imoen Romance, Tashia Romance, Oversight, Big Picture Compatibility, Dungeon-Be-Gone, and perhaps Tortured Souls if it's compatible. I've already played Ascension, and I don't think I'll ever play Throne of Bhaal without it.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:54 pm
by jcompton
The journal tells you what chapter you're in.
Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 2:32 am
by Aubrey
Mods
Originally posted by VonDondu
Unfortunately, I haven't tried them. It has actually been quite a while since I've played Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, and either the MODs weren't available back then, or I wasn't sure how "balanced" they were. Sometimes, fans who create MODs get a little carried away. I once tried Improved Illyich and Improved Demogorgon, and I just couldn't handle it.
I'm not the best player in the world, but I could probably use a little more challenge the next time I play, and there are actually several MODs I would like to try. If I can figure out which MODs can be installed with other MODs without creating complications, I'll give them a try sometime.
Sorcerer's Net lists several MODs I'd like to install: Ascension, Ease-of-Use, Redemption, Item Upgrade, Tactics, Imoen Romance, Tashia Romance, Oversight, Big Picture Compatibility, Dungeon-Be-Gone, and perhaps Tortured Souls if it's compatible. I've already played Ascension, and I don't think I'll ever play Throne of Bhaal without it.
It has been a while since I last played the game myself, too. And probably I am worse player than you are, trust me!

I haven't tried Improved Illyich, but I can tell you that all the Improved Something are a real pain!! Bodhi is real powerful, even in Normal difficulty; Irenicus (in the Final Batlle) is extremely difficult and it took me a lot of reloads and thinking as to how I was supposed to beat him. As for Ascension, I have won it just
once. Sendai is very annoying, and having my party being killed time after time is not fun at all...

Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 2:35 am
by Aubrey
Originally posted by Scayde
I am playing a 'Wizard Slayer' this go around. I hae already gottne Nalia's digs for a keep....is that my stronghold?...I don't know.
Have you installed Multiple Strongholds pack? A mage's stronghold is usually the Planar Sphere (in the Slums).
Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 10:16 am
by dragon wench
Originally posted by Aubrey
Have you installed Multiple Strongholds pack? A mage's stronghold is usually the Planar Sphere (in the Slums).
A Wizard Slayer is one of the fighter subclasses, I think
