League of Divinity

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Sun Apr 08, 2001 6:40 am

Sorry Dude.

Talking Seriously I started a Priest of Lathander quest up. At what times do you think Boon Of Lathander is useful if it all?

Also does anyone reckon that Paladins should be able to choose a certain God like for Priests?

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Sun Apr 08, 2001 8:26 am

I don't even know what Boon of Lathander does...

About the paladins: They do. There are just no kits indicating which god they worship, for the simple reason that paladins are more combat-based.
cfr. Ajantis worshipped Helm; Keldorn worships Tyr and Torm, for some reason.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun Apr 08, 2001 3:07 pm

*Waves EXTREMLY white flag*
um dont shoot, i come in peace frome a theif guildbut i have it open to monks and ranger (quick must update it)they hide but i want a peace pack between our guild k?

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:07 am

Originally posted by craig:
*Waves EXTREMLY white flag*
um dont shoot, i come in peace frome a theif guildbut i have it open to monks and ranger (quick must update it)they hide but i want a peace pack between our guild k?

Only The_Pope can decide!!

Actually when I said who they follow i meant should they get the abilities?

Also what does your prayer mean (at the bottom

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 3:37 am

Originally posted by Nippy:
Actually when I said who they follow i meant should they get the abilities?

Nah... that's a cleric thing only.
As I said, paladins only believe in a god, but they don't get powers from them.

Originally posted by Nippy:
Also what does your prayer mean (at the bottom

Is it that hard to tell?
Uhm...
Our father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be they name. Thy kingdom come (seems like I forgot this part); thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 3:47 am

Ok.. In nomine patis et fili et spiritus sanctis. Amen

I've small question (I posted it before but it was forgotten ....)

I want to start new game : PC ranger or paladin.

What is your advice - which class is more interesting, which kit ?

Thanks in advance.

Robin_Hood · Post by **Robin_Hood** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 5:20 am

Well, I just started Paladin and it's fun to play but I haven't done any of the Paladin-quests yet, so I don't know about them. I played an archer before, and I liked it too. IMHO, the ranger-quests are COOL! I would go for ranger.

Robin Hood

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 5:34 am

I would have to say Paladin because it's my favourite character, however i only played a ranger in BG1 so the quests may be very good. It's all on opinion rather than what's better (different things in different situations)

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 6:42 am

Well, let's compare...
Let's say you play the straight class and no kits.

Paladin

pro's
Lay on Hands: useful at high levels, but not invaluable (cleric will do the healing)
Cure Disease: I don't remember ever getting diseased in BG2
+2 to all saving throws: very decent!
Turn Undead: paladins sucks at doing this, it's the cleric's job
cleric spells at level 9: the ranger gets druid spells from level 8
can use Carsomyr: gimme gimme gimme!!

cons
has to be lawful good: boooring
has to be human: not really a bad thing, but humans don't get any bonuses at all; paladin can't even dual class!

IMO, the inquisitor is way better than the straight paladin.

Ranger

pro's
Charm Animal: yeah, so?
Stealth: very good to approach enemies / scout out the dungeon
druid spells at level 8: not invaluable, but the Call Insects - which paladins don't have - is nice
racial enemy: always a nice extra bonus
gets 2 slots in 2 weapon style standard: very cool!
can get the Moondog Figurine: Guenwhyvar anyone?

cons
has to be good-aligned: at least it's better than being lawful good
has to be human/elf/half-elf: not really a con: as a human, you can dual to cleric to become one of the best classes in the game; and as an elf, you gain bonuses to bow (don't know which one) and long sword

So I'd go with the ranger.

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 7:44 am

Thanks for advice.

I've decided to start new character as elven chaotic good ranger (I really like playing elves ) but I'm not sure about kit that I would like to use.

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 8:00 am

Well, if you're not planning on dual classing (you're an elf...), I'd go with either the stalker or the archer, depending on your playing style.

If you like backstabbing, the stalker is what you want. The elf bonuses for long sword are nice here.
If you prefer taking down enemies from a distance, archer is the supreme kit to do so. Your bow bonuses will make you even better. You'll waste your dual wield slots, though.
If you're into none of these styles, play a straight ranger. He can use heavy armour, and is therefor best suited for frontal fighting.

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 9:30 am

I think that I will try with Stalker - it could be something new.

B4N - I have to catch my bus.......

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The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 9:41 am

You do have to know that Valygar already is a stalker though. So if you're plannning on taking him, don't be a stalker.
He's kinda decent.

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:48 pm

Phew they have forgotten me!

The_Pope · Post by **The_Pope** » Mon Apr 09, 2001 12:57 pm

Originally posted by craig:
Phew they have forgotten me!

I never wanted a war. There wasn't any either. We are a peaceful guild.

sigurd · Post by **sigurd** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 2:42 am

I think paladins are more fun for roleplaying purposes.

Anyway, i asked 2 questions that were unanswered, how do i in the best way defend against backstabbing, does true sight work ?

More importantly, what is the best defense against insect plaqe, creeping doom?

That thing you end your messages with might be good for you, The_pope, but for a cleric of Talos it wont do.

Sigurd, Crazed Cleric of Talos

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 3:10 am

Against creeping doom/insects - you could try shield of archons when you play cleric.

Vehemence · Post by **Vehemence** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 3:22 am

True sight will not reveal a thief from the shadows if they have cloak of non detection. But if they used a potion of invisibility, it will.

I've always wondered about that.

But since none of the thieves in the game have the cloak of non detection, use true sight, or you can use the thiefs ability detect illusions. Both will work equally well.

As far as avoiding insect plague etc... just hope you have high saving throws and don't group your team in the one spot. Spread them out, so if it affects one, it wont get them all.

Pe Ell · Post by **Pe Ell** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 5:17 am

I follow gods, or should I say I stalk gods to kill them! Can I join?

Manveru · Post by **Manveru** » Tue Apr 10, 2001 6:49 am

Ohh.. you must really regert your sins

- because in other case :

Ego te exorciso spiritus immunide

- and then you are doomed -

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