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I tried Control+Y on him too. He just took 1146 points of damage and nothing else happened. He didn't die from it. What does Control+J do?

I suspected he might have some kind of unkillable belt on him or something of that sort. You'll have to attribute drain him to see him dead.

hehhee...I think I will try to pertify him or maybe imprisonment... then see what happens.

Firkraag

To Ian Kognito - I Like your name- I don't know whether it spoils any other part of the game as I haven't got too far yet. However I do know that you get some scales that make very nice armour.

Onkel Bob wrote:I tried Control+Y on him too. He just took 1146 points of damage and nothing else happened. He didn't die from it. What does Control+J do?

I didn't realize he was wearing a MINHP1 necklace. I thought Firkraag killed him when I had the two of them fight, but I guess Firkraag couldn't have done that. How strange.

EDIT: I just checked it for myself. Lord Jierdan is indeed wearing a MINHP1 necklace.

Pellinore wrote:hehhee...I think I will try to pertify him or maybe imprisonment... then see what happens.

Sorry, it won't work. In addition to preventing Lord Jierdan from dropping below 1 hit point, the MINHP1 necklace also makes Lord Jierdan immune to Petrify, Imprisonment, Hold, Charm, Disintegrate, and a bunch of other spells. It's a lot like Imoen's Belt. The game designers really don't want you to miss his quest (or create a paradox where you kill him in the Copper Coronet but meet him anyway in Windspear Hills).

Onkel Bob wrote:What does Control+J do?

Sorry, I meant to say CTRL-Q instead of CTRL-J. (CTRL-J makes the highlighted character "jump" to where your mouse is pointing.) CTRL-Q adds the character you're pointing at to your party. You can add practically anyone to your party--peasants, dogs, dragons, golems, Jon Irenicus, etc. If you look at your stats, you'll see that non-joinable NPCs are not made the same way as player characters and joinable NPCs, so take everything you see with a grain of salt--you're not supposed to be seeing it. For instance, chickens are not really 1st Level Mages, Jon Irenicus is not Chaotic Good, and Drizzt does not wield Twinkle with his teeth.

VonDondu wrote:...and Drizzt does not wield Twinkle with his teeth.

Althought that'd be cool...

I just tried the CTRL+Q thing (on a poop golem in the dungeon) and nothing happened. Must there be something else done b4 this is activated?

Pellinore wrote:I just tried the CTRL+Q thing (on a poop golem in the dungeon) and nothing happened. Must there be something else done b4 this is activated?

You have to open the baldur.ini file and under the Program Options heading add the line "Debug Mode=1"

VonDondu wrote: If you look at your stats, you'll see that non-joinable NPCs are not made the same way as player characters and joinable NPCs, so take everything you see with a grain of salt--you're not supposed to be seeing it. For instance, chickens are not really 1st Level Mages, Jon Irenicus is not Chaotic Good, and Drizzt does not wield Twinkle with his teeth.

many chicken are indeed 1st level mages! admittedly, they probably only cast 'indentify food' and 'painful peck', but that is not the point. :laugh:

As for Jon - he IS CG, but got hit with an opposite alignment curse.

Drizzt doesn't wield his sword with his teeth - if you look closely, you'll see where he has stuck the pommel of his second sword...

Um, does anyone want to discuss destroying Firkraag, before I close this thread as completely off-topic?

Earnest wrote:Lower Resistance is not a rare spell. Its for sale I think in Waukeen's promenade, on at least one of the spell merchants. Look for a red heart.

thx for the info! however, it seems its not in promade (ive checked adventurer's mart and spell shops) or in trademeet. Could it be a bug or am i just not seeing it?

thx

Feeblemind is not cheese

I do think using Feeblemind against any spellcaster, not just dragons, is not cheese, it is cheese if you do it before they turn hostile, or they should turn hostile when you start casting an offensive spell.(or a defensive, for dragons are intelligent). so just have a bunch of spellcasters, take his defences and save-rolls down, and then Feeblemind him. Insect plague is very useful against him. a game with no cheat, no infinite money (you could still steal some small items, as in the current D&D rules, such as Ribald's ring of regeneration)...