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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:48 am
by Numinor
Well, I checked all Troll .CRE files that are in the game and none has over 164 Hp, and certainly none is near 600.
But it's possible to inflict thousands of points of damage to them, if you hit the Troll so fast it has no time to get unconscious. The Troll just won't fall to the ground because everytime it gets interrupted by you hitting it.
So if a Troll just doesn't want to die, just take a step back so he can fall down without being smashed by you constantly :D

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:48 am
by Nightmare
One of the things with trolls is, that it you hit it often enough, the animation for it to fall down keeps getting interrupted. :o

EDIT: Bloody...was just beaten to it. :p

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:47 am
by Eryndel
Yeah I've noticed the same thing. My groups was fighting a troll in the Druid's grove and just kept beating the thing. I went through the feedback afterwards and counted something like 1020 pts of damage to it and the feedback wouldn't scroll to the beginning of the battle.

I looked at all the trolls in Shadowkeeper but none have more than the high hundreds. Beating on them seems to interfere with the falling down ("near death") animation.

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:30 pm
by Patrick
I remember the last and only time I went completly through BG2 there was this gas spore thing in tthe beholder dungeon or cult of unseeing eye dungeon that never died. It stoped posing a threat but was indestructable.

Also true / false Acid Arrow stacks when cast multiple times?

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:59 pm
by SP101
True. Throw 3 Acid Arrows to the Otyugh (Spelling?) in Jhonny's dungeon : It will die pretty quickly :D

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:07 am
by moltovir
The only enchanted arrows in Chateau Irenicus are arrows of biting, not acid arrows IIRC..

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:11 am
by Numinor
They are talking about the spell "Melf's Acid Arrow". Otyughs are immune to missile weapons, so you cant hit them with ranged attacks (excluding spells of course)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:17 am
by moltovir
I remember killing the Otyugh in the CC Sewers with 5 arrows of biting, they are perhaps immune to missile damage but not to the elemental damage.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:33 am
by SP101
Maybe. But anyway, the easier way to kill the Otyugh in Irenicus' Dungeon is to move immie on the stairs (North-Weast corner of the room) and to throw 3 Melfs Acid Arrows while he's trying to get close enough to hit you.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:42 am
by SP101
True or False

The magic effect of Keldorn's Armor is considered as an "Arcane Spell" and can't be used in town or Cowled Wizard will come and attack you?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:49 am
by Sytze
True...or was that something with his sword?? Anyway, I'm going with true :p

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:54 am
by SP101
Maybe it's the sword.... anyway, it's a counter-attack of 5 Magic Damage.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:56 am
by Sytze
Whatver piece it is, it counts as an Arcane Spell. I hate it when Wizards show up for that.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:19 am
by Numinor
It is his sword, and that annoying bug is fixed by the baldurdash fixpack.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:55 am
by CrownHead
True or False:

Mae'var is not actually a pure thief, but a human multiclass thief/mage wearing armor and not being able to cast spells.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:13 am
by moltovir
True, but i think it's changed in tactics.

PS: the most easy way to beat the Otyugh is standing on the western stairs (where he can't reach you) and pounding him with the Quarterstaf +1 :)

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:44 pm
by FireLighter
True, for me anyways.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:16 pm
by Thrain
True or False: the level 6 wizard spell protection from magic energy protects the user from Abi-Dalzim's horrid wilting

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:10 pm
by FireLighter
True (magic missle as well).

-Stewies Henchman

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:52 pm
by SP101
And dont forget Skull Trap :D

Just cast a Protection From Magical Energy and then use skull traps as sunfires :)