How far would you go

[Hill-Shatar]

Ok, the conclusion of my enquires are that it's always best to cut as distal as possible, even if you have a rusty knife, even if it means cutting through bone, even if you get a worse immunoresponse later, even if...anything. The reason for this is that the major problem you are going to face, is the bleeding. It is easier to stop the bleeding the more distal you get. Thus, I stay with my cutting at the elbow.

the surgeon said the same I talked about. He said that proximal cutting would lead to less bleeding and from his experience less chance of infecting, but also, that far underweighs the fact that he has nothing to work with.

I am at a university (or do you mean go back to uni as a student?) and I work more than any of the so called researchers in the industry But I seldom do 100 hours/week. It happened often some years ago, not it happens only occationally...it was at least 2 months since last time (but that was fun!)

Did you just call us lazy? *slap* Week should do a workathon and see how long you last aginast me, the only one in the forum who has slept only 24 hours in the last week before this.

I work at a university, but I do research there (and fill in for classes for a forgetful professor). I am also now going back as a student. I am just finishing up my final course... for yet another degree, which will finally allow me to do some types of research Ive wanted to do since I was a kid.

Although I am sick of staring at my Bio Engineering book. Ive taken the course multiple times... but NO, its a preresiquite.

Last time I pulled over a hundred hours a week was... last week. And the weeks before for 9 months. As with all people in research, I am overworked and underpaid for what I do. (hence, Uni).At least this week will be slow until they send in my next batch of cancerous brain cells from the newest series of patients.

I should of gone into neuroscience... it sounds so easy... ah, my Gel is finished...

*Note* My keyboard has decided to be mean and channel the spirit of whoever was the worst flamer here, it has decided that apostrophes and auto spell checks are unimportant. Also all the keys tend to change values. I blame all spelling errors on the devil possessed keyboard*

[C Elegans]

He said that proximal cutting would lead to less bleeding and from his experience less chance of infecting, but also, that far underweighs the fact that he has nothing to work with.

Proximal cutting would lead to less bleeding? But the arteries are thicker and less divided more proximally, so what was his argument for that? Strange.

Did you just call us lazy? *slap* Week should do a workathon and see how long you last aginast me, the only one in the forum who has slept only 24 hours in the last week before this.

Yeah, industry workers are overpaid, don't do any real science and go home 6 o clock

I work at a university, but I do research there (and fill in for classes for a forgetful professor). I am also now going back as a student. I am just finishing up my final course... for yet another degree, which will finally allow me to do some types of research Ive wanted to do since I was a kid.

Sounds like a good choice, research takes such a heavy toll on everything else in your life, so you'd better make sure you do what you really want to do, otherwise it's not worth all the sacrifices and the stress-related diseases.

I should of gone into neuroscience... it sounds so easy... ah, my Gel is finished...

It's a piece of cake Nobody knows anything anyway, so you can become a world leading expert in a few years if you work hard, and every study you do leads to at least a decent publication because it's new knowledge

[Hill-Shatar]

Proximal cutting would lead to less bleeding? But the arteries are thicker and less divided more proximally, so what was his argument for that? Strange.

Under the right condtions. However, these people have been cruel to me in the past. It has something to dow ith the fact that since you move your joints and elbows more, the bloood rushes more quickly through there to get the Carbon Dioxide out. They are in no hurry to get it in. Plus, IIRC, the nerve is more effective in the shoulder for cutting off blood.

Yeah, industry workers are overpaid, don't do any real science and go home 6 o clock

I hope you dont think Im an industry worker. Or even, worse, that you are.

What surprises me more is that was a stereotype from CE! Quoted for preservation!

Are these the same industry workers that check the ever more incredible abilities of our current ateltes for steroids? (Yes, I know that the majority dont use them. but the effectrs of steriods last months after use and dont show up in the urinary tract)

Sounds like a good choice, research takes such a heavy toll on everything else in your life, so you'd better make sure you do what you really want to do, otherwise it's not worth all the sacrifices and the stress-related diseases.

Ive been working in research for my entire career so far. Ive been around the bend and have gone numb. You?

Brain cancer still interests me though... Im looking for the happy medium (the one out of all our grasps)... and Ive heard that much of the work I am currently doing is above my head. Whatever. I have also heard that my work is disturbingly familiar to neurosciece. I am unsure how to remark to that.

Its nice to know that someone understands my dilema.

It's a piece of cake Nobody knows anything anyway, so you can become a world leading expert in a few years if you work hard, and every study you do leads to at least a decent publication because it's new knowledge

You are really close to making the list of people I must hunt down.

Biomechanics is easy, just as long as you dont confuse any of your results, since the next ten generations will be using it.

Unfortunately, only a small bit of that is in my job. Its all immunology and microbiology, well practiced subjects.



You know... I should try to be witty, but Im too tired to try right now... theres probably a reason why they frown upon us working 20 hour days, but still pile the work on us.

One of my coworkers just screamed magical wall, made a mime wall, feigned running into it and is now lying on the floor giggling. It takes a certain temperment to be a scientist.

Are you this civil in real life? I know Im even worse in real life. mostly cause my mouth has yet to be totally demon possessed.

[C Elegans]

It has something to dow ith the fact that since you move your joints and elbows more, the bloood rushes more quickly through there to get the Carbon Dioxide out. They are in no hurry to get it in. Plus, IIRC, the nerve is more effective in the shoulder for cutting off blood.

Hm. I should find another surgeon to ask, this is not at all what the two guys I spoke to today said. Problem is, I only know neurosurgeons, I should find an intern medicine one or something like that.

I hope you dont think Im an industry worker. Or even, worse, that you are.

What surprises me more is that was a stereotype from CE! Quoted for preservation!

Yes, I thought you were and industry worker, that's why I joked by putting up this stereotype to mock you And no, I am not an industry worker, but my field, neuroimaging, is currently under severe pressue worldwide due to lack of independent funding. The largest UK brain imaging lab has been closed down, the largest in NYC has been closed down, and NIH have cut fundings in half from next year for neuroimaging, will cut down to 20% from 2007. My lab has the same kind of problems. It's such a bloody expensive experimental method

Ive been working in research for my entire career so far. Ive been around the bend and have gone numb. You?

Not sure what you mean, but I am not numb yet although I've been in research all my career except one year, when I did clinical service.

Brain cancer still interests me though...

I have some Japanse co-workers who work on that...they do some scary stuff They work on mechanisms that constitute a trade off between apoptosis and neurodegeneration and increased cell growth, that is, cancer.

You are really close to making the list of people I must hunt down.

And do what? Make me into microbiological material?

One of my coworkers just screamed magical wall, made a mime wall, feigned running into it and is now lying on the floor giggling. It takes a certain temperment to be a scientist.

Yes, I recognise the kind of scenario

Are you this civil in real life? I know Im even worse in real life. mostly cause my mouth has yet to be totally demon possessed.

Civil? I am sure if you ask most people here at SYM they will tell you I am cold, callous and don't respect others personal feelings enough But yes, I am very much the same in real life as here at SYM, I have a nasty humour in real life though which I don't let loose here since I know there are many sensitive people around.

[Hill-Shatar]

Hm. I should find another surgeon to ask, this is not at all what the two guys I spoke to today said. Problem is, I only know neurosurgeons, I should find an intern medicine one or something like that.

I have a feeling that they were jerking me around. but Im used to it. In any case, neurosurgeons are the same as srugeons, otherwise surgeon would not be in the name under the second (I believe) definition of it.

Yes, I thought you were and industry worker, that's why I joked by putting up this stereotype to mock you And no, I am not an industry worker, but my field, neuroimaging, is currently under severe pressue worldwide due to lack of independent funding. The largest UK brain imaging lab has been closed down, the largest in NYC has been closed down, and NIH have cut fundings in half from next year for neuroimaging, will cut down to 20% from 2007. My lab has the same kind of problems. It's such a bloody expensive experimental method

Grrrr.... not industry worker. Why would I still be at work at 2 in the morning running tests?


I know how you feel about that funding cuts... they expect results that we cant give them, and people tend not to be so understanding.

I have some Japanse co-workers who work on that...they do some scary stuff They work on mechanisms that constitute a trade off between apoptosis and neurodegeneration and increased cell growth, that is, cancer.

Interesting.

to put it simple, I am currently working in animal testing with rats and introducing them with Glial cells from brains that have Oligodendricytes ( woah... I just noticed how simplistic, and stupid that looked...) dividing in them, which, as you know, is impossible, as brain cells do not divide. I then check to see what genetic changes have been underway.

Oh god, looking back, that looks confusing... oh well, its not as interesting as your work. At least you didnt have to waste your time finding correlations with genes and p53. Lovely what they do in University... oh look, fill out this chart...

In any case, brain cancer is nearly impossible to beat. to get through it is a friggin miracle. To anyone who wants to know out there, Brain Cancer IS hereditary.

Ask your questions, although its late. you will not get very informative responces.

And do what? Make me into microbiological material?

You must be taught a lesson...

Yes, I recognise the kind of scenario

*cough* Why am I not surprised? Got any good stories? Id tell you mine, but my co worker is now fighting with his computer, and the local engneer set up one of those boxing glove springs around the side... this should be interesting...

Civil? I am sure if you ask most people here at SYM they will tell you I am cold, callous and don't respect others personal feelings enough But yes, I am very much the same in real life as here at SYM, I have a nasty humour in real life though which I don't let loose here since I know there are many sensitive people around.

I have a really nasty sense of humour. I have a feeling that many people with professions such as ours, or similar, also have a weird sense of humour. Must be the conditioning they put us through.

I find you at times hilarious. People here have problems finding sarcasm unless theres a special smilie next to it. I typically dont like using them... take up to much space where words could be. I am happy and generous in my emails, ect, generally polite. Except when you po me. An east indian demanded that I give him all my results... so I strategically lost the email in my large inbox until 6 months later, when he finally was polite.

I know that was not nice. He neeeded to learn a lesson. I am sure youve met the type.

Reading a paper on Endometrial Neoplasia. I am not sure why. Apparently it has something to do with a paper I published a few years back.

Pst, about the herediatry part, for any of you non ancer clueless people... its the chromisone at the bottom of the telomere. See how helpful I am.