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Less used kits
Yes there is a least one and his sword is worthless (For what you can sell it for) And your right it is a vast improvement from BG1.
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"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
Yep, when I saw it (the sword) in the game, I thought, "there has to be a hidden class or something". Maybe they'll come out with an expansion or something to give you the class you so rightly deserve. Er..., I mean that in the kindest sense, you understand.
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Well Thanks HAHAHAHA . I sent in a ? when GameBanshee was asking Black Isle about what was in Neverwinter Nights , but messed up my ? asking was a Anti-Paladin included in it. 
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"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
Did they respond? I always wondered if they didn't want any controversy and so shied away from evil classes and characters and rewarding evil actions. They've seemed to go out of their way to reward good over evil. I like the idea, not sure about the implementation, though.
Matti Il-Amin, Paladin, comedian, and expert adventurer. Proudly bearing the colors of the [url="http://www.svelmoe.dk/blade/index.htm"]Blades of the Banshee[/url]
Hey, Weasel, since you seem to have been down this path, I figured I'd ask you.....
If you are playing the game as a Paladin and "fall from grace", becoming a fighter, do you gain the ability to get the D'Arnisse keep as your stronghold? Also, do you then become eligible to dual-class once you become a "normal" fighter?
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
If you are playing the game as a Paladin and "fall from grace", becoming a fighter, do you gain the ability to get the D'Arnisse keep as your stronghold? Also, do you then become eligible to dual-class once you become a "normal" fighter?
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
Buck posted the whole transcript over in current news section I believe.
As for my ? I asked would a Fallen Paladin be included ? I wasn't thinking And their reply was 'That a fallen paladin was included'
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As for my ? I asked would a Fallen Paladin be included ?
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'Weasel the Most Holy of the Holy Cavaliers'.
"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
I've only 'fall from grace' twice and both times I had to break real bad. The game is based on being good so you can get away with a lot before you 'fall'.Originally posted by geh4th:
Hey, Weasel, since you seem to have been down this path, I figured I'd ask you.....
If you are playing the game as a Paladin and "fall from grace", becoming a fighter, do you gain the ability to get the D'Arnisse keep as your stronghold? Also, do you then become eligible to dual-class once you become a "normal" fighter?
As for your ? I would say yes because you become a regular fighter. The dual ? I have never thought about , but it might be worth looking in to. I'm almost finished with my 4 time and might just try this.
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"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
Only Weasel *tries* to fall from grace. Okay, maybe there are others...
Since I have been told 3rd. Ed. rules state that a paladin is simply a knight devoted to a particular people, culture, or way of life, I always wondered if they would become a some sort of "holy knight", and each religion would have their version of a paladin/anti-paladin. I think I like the idea.
Since I have been told 3rd. Ed. rules state that a paladin is simply a knight devoted to a particular people, culture, or way of life, I always wondered if they would become a some sort of "holy knight", and each religion would have their version of a paladin/anti-paladin. I think I like the idea.
Matti Il-Amin, Paladin, comedian, and expert adventurer. Proudly bearing the colors of the [url="http://www.svelmoe.dk/blade/index.htm"]Blades of the Banshee[/url]
Yes that would be a lot better.
I'll say it ( Flame Shield in place) I liked the Dragon Lance books. Even the later ones (They weren't as good as the first IMO) with the Knights of the Black Rose (I believe that was what they were called)
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'Weasel the Most Holy of the Holy Cavaliers'.
I'll say it ( Flame Shield in place) I liked the Dragon Lance books. Even the later ones (They weren't as good as the first IMO) with the Knights of the Black Rose (I believe that was what they were called)
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'Weasel the Most Holy of the Holy Cavaliers'.
"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
The sneaky plan that underlies the question on fallen paladins:
Say you want a fighter-mage. I have seen that without editing, it is rather difficult to get a decent set of ability scores from a PC who is "just" a fighter, since there is very little in the way of minimum requirements. Paladins, on the other hand, end up with very good average scores because of there very high requirements. You end up with a much better PC with a paladin (on average), so all you need to do is "fall" intentionally, becoming a regular fighter, and then (as long as you thought ahead and set the required scores) dual-class to anything you want to within the rules (mage in this example).
This of course assumes that once you "fall" to a normal fighter the game allows you to dual class henceforth.
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
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Say you want a fighter-mage. I have seen that without editing, it is rather difficult to get a decent set of ability scores from a PC who is "just" a fighter, since there is very little in the way of minimum requirements. Paladins, on the other hand, end up with very good average scores because of there very high requirements. You end up with a much better PC with a paladin (on average), so all you need to do is "fall" intentionally, becoming a regular fighter, and then (as long as you thought ahead and set the required scores) dual-class to anything you want to within the rules (mage in this example).
This of course assumes that once you "fall" to a normal fighter the game allows you to dual class henceforth.
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
I don't believe you can dual a fallen paladin, though I haven't tried it. You'd have to ask Weasel. He's the expert on the subject.
I think they're still considered a paladin, though their abilities are inactive.
Weasel, I love the idea of having "holy knights" from each diety. The good ones are paladins, the evil are anti-paladins, etc. That's how we always did it in PNP games. Seems to make more sense.
I think they're still considered a paladin, though their abilities are inactive.
Weasel, I love the idea of having "holy knights" from each diety. The good ones are paladins, the evil are anti-paladins, etc. That's how we always did it in PNP games. Seems to make more sense.
Matti Il-Amin, Paladin, comedian, and expert adventurer. Proudly bearing the colors of the [url="http://www.svelmoe.dk/blade/index.htm"]Blades of the Banshee[/url]
Do I know the difference between them?
'Fraid not. I haven't played AD&D for about 15 years, aside from BG, and find myself a bit rusty....<"now, what does that monster do, again?.....OUCH.....oh, yeah, I remember now...."> It is an adventure to just deal with the new stuff I've never seen before. Gives me a far different perspective from those out ther who know how to recite every word of every AD&D manual.....backwards......
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
'Fraid not. I haven't played AD&D for about 15 years, aside from BG, and find myself a bit rusty....<"now, what does that monster do, again?.....OUCH.....oh, yeah, I remember now...."> It is an adventure to just deal with the new stuff I've never seen before. Gives me a far different perspective from those out ther who know how to recite every word of every AD&D manual.....backwards......
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"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
"If you prefer, you could say EXPERT treasure hunter!"
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
--Gandalf the Grey, the Hobbit
Drakron where is your book?Originally posted by geh4th:
Do I know the difference between them?
'Fraid not. I haven't played AD&D for about 15 years, aside from BG, and find myself a bit rusty....<"now, what does that monster do, again?.....OUCH.....oh, yeah, I remember now...."> It is an adventure to just deal with the new stuff I've never seen before. Gives me a far different perspective from those out ther who know how to recite every word of every AD&D manual.....backwards......
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'Weasel the Most Holy of the Holy Cavaliers'.
"Vile and evil, yes. But, That's Weasel" From BS's book, MD 20/20: Fine Wines of Rocky Flop.
I was wondering the same thing. My books are all 10 yrs old, and it's been more than half that since I last played. Okay, I'm getting misty, here.
A fallen paladin is one who was good and has fallen from LG (i.e. became NG, LN, etc.). They may or may not be trying to regain paladin status.
An Anti-paladin is a class as devoted to evil as paladins are devoted to good. They are the opposite of a paladin. BTW, are they CE or LE?
A fallen paladin is one who was good and has fallen from LG (i.e. became NG, LN, etc.). They may or may not be trying to regain paladin status.
An Anti-paladin is a class as devoted to evil as paladins are devoted to good. They are the opposite of a paladin. BTW, are they CE or LE?
Matti Il-Amin, Paladin, comedian, and expert adventurer. Proudly bearing the colors of the [url="http://www.svelmoe.dk/blade/index.htm"]Blades of the Banshee[/url]
