The Grey Griffin Lounge and Coffee House

vixen · Post by **vixen** » Mon May 07, 2001 1:07 pm

There's lots of hills round here so it isn't really flat.

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon May 07, 2001 1:10 pm

When you fall off the end of the world you will realize it's flat.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed May 09, 2001 11:31 pm

*Bump.*

I will soon add a post, just have to figure something clever...

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Wed May 09, 2001 11:46 pm

A couple of interesting topics open for debate....

1. Considering the fact that we live in an imperfect world, What do you think of capitalism? Is it the best system that is posible?

2. To what extent does an individual have the right to defend him or herself?

I am asking this due to the following situation.. Imagine the this: Someone pulls a knife on you. Dutch law says that you are not allowed to use a firearm to defend yourself in this case.... You are not allowed to use a strike weapon or a knife to defend yourself when you are attacked by three unarmed thugs...

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 12:57 am

Flagg, move to Arizona and buy a Squad Automatic Weapon.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Thu May 10, 2001 5:11 am

@Flagg: That is a bit extreme, maybe your lawmakers have seen too many Sat. morning Kung Fu movies...trying to turn every conflict into an exciting, evenly matched event. Maybe that's not such a bad idea, mandatory kung fu fighting for every altercation.

My country is sadly at the other extreme. In Montana, you are legally allowed to lob grenades at other drivers if you don't like the color of their car...

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Waverly ]

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 5:24 am

I'm moving to Montana. And no I haven't seen your lighter Waverly.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:19 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
A couple of interesting topics open for debate....

1. Considering the fact that we live in an imperfect world, What do you think of capitalism? Is it the best system that is posible?

2. To what extent does an individual have the right to defend him or herself?

1.It's most likely the best we have now....still it could do with improvements.

2.To the fullest extent.

(2)A side note.....With the guns in the US and the easy access to them...these laws that people try to pass, will in the end make it were everybody (besides the crimnals) is afraid to even go out. Passing laws banning guns will not help. If I was a crimnal....why would I worry about breaking this law. I think it would make a crimnals more brave. He would know that John Doe...Mr.Upstanding Citzen doesn't have a gun and that he can break in to his house at anytime and will not run the chance of having his head blowed off.

I have heard...do away with all guns....yea right...just like doing away with all illegal drugs...that's working

I believe guns get the same treatment as AD&D.

I own AD&D...so this means I'm evil??
I own a gun...so this means I'm going to kill someone??

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:24 am

You're a brave man for saying that weasel. I agree.

Bravo.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:25 am

Originally posted by Weasel:
I own a gun...so this means I'm going to kill someone??

You and your gun just stay down there in the confederacy, Johny Rebel

j/k

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:26 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
A couple of interesting topics open for debate....

1. Considering the fact that we live in an imperfect world, What do you think of capitalism? Is it the best system that is posible?

2. To what extent does an individual have the right to defend him or herself?

I am asking this due to the following situation.. Imagine the this: Someone pulls a knife on you. Dutch law says that you are not allowed to use a firearm to defend yourself in this case.... You are not allowed to use a strike weapon or a knife to defend yourself when you are attacked by three unarmed thugs...

Ad 1) Need I answer this one

Ad 2) I would always defend myself in the manner I see fit - I don't care what laws state (I'm not useally one that breaks laws) I'll always, if I feel treathen, defend myself in a manner that makes sure the person attacking me stops attacking me.
(I actually think that Danish law is much similar to Dutch law on this matter)

[ 05-10-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:30 am

@Gruntyboy and Waverly.....from my remarks..it would seem I own a gun.

I haven't had a gun since I was 16....had a single shot 12 gauge...hunted Bambie for awhile

then sold the gun. Still I believe Mr.Crimnal doesn't know I don't have one.

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:37 am

Well it made me think twice about breaking into your house.

If johnny criminal doesn't know either way...

<mental note - break into Weasel's house, he doesn't have a gun...

>

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:39 am

Who needs a gun, when you can kill with your hands

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:45 am

ROFL

I'm sure the authorities would license your hands if the could Xandax.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:47 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
ROFL

I'm sure the authorities would license your hands if the could Xandax.

Who says they haven't

I just haven't got a licens for them - still working on that

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:51 am

Well they can't license baseball bats.

BTW, did you know that Northern Ireland has the highest sales of Baseball bats outside of North America & Japan - they had a plan to license them once

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:51 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<mental note - break into Weasel's house, he doesn't have a gun... >

I have a tatar gun

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:53 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Well they can't license baseball bats.

BTW, did you know that Northern Ireland has the highest sales of Baseball bats outside of North America & Japan - they had a plan to license them once

*ROFL* - 14 year old kid whats to buy/play baseball, but can't because he is not old enough to get a "Baseball bat licens"

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Thu May 10, 2001 6:54 am

Originally posted by Weasel:
I have a tatar gun

That sounds dangerous....