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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:26 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Yshania:
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no miracle Those firefighters rescued were recent casualties...not detracting at all - but not party to the tower originally collapsing.
Worse still, people have been arrested for posing as survivors and rescue workers...

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Let's still hope they find more survivors.
Posing as survivors and rescue workers??? I sincerely hope this is just rumour!?

Why would people do that? Do get their 15 minutes of fame?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:29 pm
by T'lainya
Some of them at last are reporters/photographers trying to get closer pictures

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:37 pm
by C Elegans
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:40 pm
by Yshania
Sad.

We have all the photos we can cope with, we have heard the same reports for a couple of days, we need answers and action - not hindrance...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:42 pm
by C Elegans
When discussion people handling the situation in a disrespectful way, I found this at another board, posted by an American guy.
My head almost exploded when I read it, so I felt a need to share it with you. But if you find it too much to bear right now, I'll remove it.
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I was in college when Reagan and Bradey(sp) were shot:
Idiots applauded, cheered and laughed.
I was (I think) still in college when The Challenger exploded.
Idiots told jokes, and laughed.
I was on a sales trip when the Cherynobyl disaster occured.
Idiots applauded and cheered ("**** them Rooskies" "Hey! Let's watch 'em glow!")
I hung up on a friend when SCUDs were firing at Israel in the Gulf War and he was laughing about how the Israelies were looking for an excuse to "nuke the ragheads".
A moron ex-friend mocked Clinton during the beginning of the Oklahoma Bombing incident. (I don't remember what exactly was said, but it was pretty stupid and offensive.)
And now, at work, I'm hearing comments like "There goes the neigborhood!" or "Look they're going out of business! They're having a fire sale ! Fire! Geddit?" or "Hey! Does this mean no work tomorrow?!". I nearly punched an employee (I refrained. Are you proud?) who said "Eh, all th' people in those buildings were rich fat-cats who got what they deserve."
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Unbelievable
Unbelievable
Unbelievable

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:55 pm
by Yshania
@C E - I will not quote in case you do decide to remove it...
Human nature completely baffles me. To cause so many tragedies, to unite only after such tragedies, and to joke in the face of such tragedies...
I cling to those that unite...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 4:06 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 9:52 am
by KidD01
DAMN ! It's stormy last nite on Ground Zero. I wonder how long those unfounded survivors can hang on

Let's pray for them, people !
Anyway there's news also regarding bogus website containing missleading information about the survivors.

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 10:16 am
by Yshania
A bit more news:
"HIJACKERS NAMED
By Hugh Dougherty, PA News, in New York
THE FBI today released the names used by the 18 men it believes were the terrorists who hijacked the four planes used in Tuesday's kamikaze flights.
The suspected hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower of the World Trade Centre, were Walid Al Shehri, Wail Alsheri aka Waleed Alsheri, Mohammad Atta, Aabdul Alomari and Satam Sugami, CNN reported.
Aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the south tower of the World Trade Centre, the suspected hijackers were Marawn Alshehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Al Ghamdi and Ahmed Al Ghamdi.
Those believed to be the hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon, were Khalid Almihdhar, Majed Moqued, Nawaf Al Hazmi and Salem Al Hazmi.
The suspected hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in rural Pennsylvania, were Ahmed Al Haznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrah and Saeed Alghamdi.
Federal authorities warned the spellings of the names may vary from other documents.
Atta is regarded as the man to whom all the other terrorists are linked.
He rented a car found at Logan airport and had a United Arab Emirates passport, but the country's government says it believes it was a false passport and the FBI suspect he may North Africa.
His last homes were in Florida and the German city of Hamburg and he is known to have undergone flight training at two schools in Florida, one of which had a jet simulator.
Walid Al Shehri and Wail Alsheri, also known as Waleed Alsheri, are brothers, thought to be from Saudi Arabia and members of a clan which fought in Afghanistan during the 1980s.
They are believed to have intensive flight training in Florida and by being from Saudi Arabia and possibly having fought in the Afghan War would have a double link to Osama bin laden, who was born in the Gulf state but led troops in Afghanistan.
Terrorism expert Peter Bergen told CNN that many of the names were associated with Saudi tribes in the south of the country which had close links to Yemen.
Bin Laden's father was Yemeni and his followers were suspected to have carried out the attack on the USS Cole in the country which left dozens of sailors dead.
Mr Bergen said: "You are seeing that probably half the people on the list are Saudi and one-third are Yemeni.
"Bin Laden veterans returning to Saudi from Afghanistan have been talking about some big action in the next couple of weeks, my sources have told me.
"It was originally though it was going to be in Saudi, but clearly this was it." "
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 12:32 pm
by KidD01
News Update :
Taliban Spiritual on his radio Broadcast telling people of Afgan to be prepare for another war.
Comment : If Talibans are innocent and Bin Laden didn't involved in this act of terrorism why this guy broadcast this such of message ? Even Colin Powell haven't point his finger towards Afgan nor Bin Laden.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 12:36 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
Idiots. Simple. Idiots.
HOW CAN THEY JOKE WHEN THEY HAVE A CHANCE AT DYING????????????????? OMAE O KOROSU!!! OMAE O KOROSU!!!!! OMAE O KOROSU!!!
*takes off Heero's Mask and becomes Quatre again*
We should avoid fighting...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 12:42 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>Idiots. Simple. Idiots.
HOW CAN THEY JOKE WHEN THEY HAVE A CHANCE AT DYING????????????????? OMAE O KOROSU!!! OMAE O KOROSU!!!!! OMAE O KOROSU!!!
*takes off Heero's Mask and becomes Quatre again*
We should avoid fighting...</STRONG>
Okay, Quatre-kun, it's time to give the Zero System back to Hee-chan.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 1:26 pm
by Crassus
Edited to delete material which I did not realize was posted elsewhere in SYM.
[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: Crassus ]
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 1:28 pm
by Crassus
Amazon.com has set up a connection where you can donate to the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund through their site. Since Sept. 11, more than $4.25 million has been contributed. You can literally watch the number of contributors and the amount of contributions increase. It is very easy - contributions can be charged to your credit card
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 1:37 pm
by ThorinOakensfield
If it hasn't already been mentioned;
Terrorists in Britain and other parts of the world are threatning to destroy american compnay buildings, like American Express.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 2:11 pm
by dragon wench
The mutterings of war grow; on Tuesday the lives of innocent civilians were blotted out. Will innocent lives also pay for those atrocities already committed?
When will this madness end?
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 2:13 pm
by scully1
@DW: We can't just sit back and take it, can we???...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 2:26 pm
by Georgi
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 2:30 pm
by dragon wench
@Loner, I'm just very afraid. I spend a lot of time looking at newspapers published between 1935 and 1955........
I don't know what the solution is. Clearly those who perpetrated these heinous acts must be brought to Justice. I just very much hope that retribution is limited to those directly responsible..........
I intend no disrespect to anyone here. I have never supported terrorism, and I can't even begin to imagine the mentality that would endorse something so awfull. I'm simply very fearful of what could happen ..........
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 2:54 pm
by scully1
@DW -- I'm afraid too. Terrified. But we've been attacked. If I'm attacked I'm going to defend myself. If my nation is attacked it should also defend itself.
@Georgi -- It's not about "an eye for an eye". That's not what self-defense is all about. It's about negating the attack and making sure it doesn't happen again. Was WWII "an eye for an eye"? No, it was about stopping Hitler.