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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:49 pm
by Phreddie
just a question:
Why does everyone want the Unkown Planet (planet around which the star forge orbited) back?
There would be nothing to there, in the canonical story line the star forge was destroyed, if you turned out dark side it began to forge a fleet to wipe out the galaxy, other than having the fun of killing abunch of primitive aliens, there wouldnt be much to do there.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:23 am
by marten0305
I agree there isn't much to do on the planet. I see no point in bringing it back but i wouldn't care if it came back as long as it was optional to go to.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:39 am
by mr_sir
if they did return to the star forge system, then they could possibly discover another planet in hte system that they could explore, although this is unlikely considering in kotor1 it seemed likethere was only one planet. i agree too, any planet in that system would likely just be primitive as not only were the rakatan conquerers and slavers etc., but then the sith kind of took over for a while too. so seeing as the republic never knew about the system i doubt that there would be anything than primitive beings as the rest would no doubt have been wiped out or enslaved by either the rakatan (when they were powerful) or the sith and not had much chance to build up a civilisation.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:19 pm
by marten0305
They could discover a whole new sith homeworld in the system or the sith have a hidden base on the star forge system. The sith could be working on another weapon they plan to use against the republic.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:22 pm
by benji
Yeah, or if Your character is in search of Revan then this planet may have leads as to where he went. Also another good planet would be Yavin 4 or Naboo because it would be interesting to see waht they are like 4000 years before the films
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:16 am
by marten0305
In addition to my choosing the players crew idea, it would also be interesting to have each of the crew have different reactions to every choice the player makes. Some characters agree with the choice and other characters disagree. Have LS characters and DS characters. Neutral characters agree or disagree with every choice the player makes.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:51 am
by mr_sir
and if they do have system like in kotor2 where people can fall to the dark side with you, then their reactions should change accordingly.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:54 am
by FighterTundra
the whole storyline WILL be ****ed(sorry, i know no other way to say this, im dutch) up. there WILL be too many bugs in the story to really enjoy the game. so what I tought, make kotOR III A MMORPG(xboxlive). with several quests to complete. you will have to earn credits to survive and stuff, you will be able to get credits by playing pazaak, racing swoops, killing people etc. with credits you can buy a better ship to travel. on the beginning you can choose wich side you are(dark side neutral light side) so there will be epic field battles. no ending level, how higher you get how better classes you can get in. there will be area's where you can't be attacked by other players, and there will be a wilderness(much money to make in there)where you CAN kill other players(they drop stuff). but the planets must be HUGE to actually make this a good MMORPG. so this is my idea of kotOR III. and when the bugs in the storyline can be fixed, make this MMORPG an extra option in the menu(multiplayer). what i forgot: you will be able to get weak companions in the MMORPG (like a kathhound or something or just a human). and you can join a party(they can't attack each other and they will share the XP they earn)
P.S. plz respond on my idea
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:00 am
by mr_sir
and what about the large proportion of players that don't own an x-box or are not interested in online play? got nothing against your idea, i just think that it would be unfair to turn the kotor series into a mmorpg when there are so many people that like it as a single player game. and limiting it to one platform would cause a huge drop in sales as a lot of players play it on the pc.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:05 am
by Suicide Girl
I'm sorry; I think KotOR as a MMORPG would not work. A lot of KotOR players care much more about the story than the actual gameplay. (or maybe not; call it my dainty little picture-perfect utopia) Of course, a Star Wars MMORPG would probably be interesting to people who like that sort of thing, but it definitely shouldn't have anything to do with KotOR. Actually, it wouldn't, because after all, KotOR is really about interactively telling a story, and without it, it's just not KotOR.
Sorry about the rant.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:09 am
by FighterTundra
no good reply's, so than just the MMORPG as an EXTRA multiplayer option.
I think some of the replies were good, unless I'm mistaking you here. - Hill-Shatar
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:13 am
by mr_sir
if they were going to include multiplayer in kotor then i think it would have to be as an optional extra. the main point of kotor games are that they are star wars rpgs. this means that the story and character development are the main part of the game. as the majority of kotor players are most likely rpg fans then not focussing on these would mean they'd have to find a whole new market to sell it. a star wars mmorpg is a good idea, i just think it should be seperate to the kotor series of games - maybe set in the same era in the same area of the galaxy, but not as a third installment of the series.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:17 am
by FighterTundra
[QUOTE=mr_sir]if they were going to include multiplayer in kotor then i think it would have to be as an optional extra. the main point of kotor games are that they are star wars rpgs. this means that the story and character development are the main part of the game. as the majority of kotor players are most likely rpg fans then not focussing on these would mean they'd have to find a whole new market to sell it. a star wars mmorpg is a good idea, i just think it should be seperate to the kotor series of games - maybe set in the same era in the same area of the galaxy, but not as a third installment of the series.[/QUOTE]
good idea! just make after kotOR III just a seperate game set in kotor universe named: Star Wars: knights of the Old Republic MMORPG version.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:36 am
by Tovec
MMORG and Unknown Planets
Ok let me deal with this as it was posted.
A) As for the star forge planet it might be a good idea to re-explore it. Who knows what kind of ancient technology could be found there. Remember that the Ritakian(sp) used to be a big bad race that made something as powerful as the Star Forge! There could easily be one or two downed Ritakian ships in that mass grave yard on the planet. Some nice shield or gun bonuses who knows.
Alright also hidden planets of the True Sith is not a bad idea. I think that it would make for a more dynamic game finding these ancient hidden planets. Even if they are barren like Korriban. Because we are dealing with ancient ANCIENT technology from big bads and big good (well not TS). What I really am itching to see is a super hidden, super secret Jedi planet/base. Think about it. An entire planet of Jedi to help on the quest. Probably explained by a group of Jedi that disagreed with the Council but weren't Evil so they left to make their own way. Found a Force sensitive planet. Etc.
B)Can someone please spell out what MMORG means. I know I know the term but so far it eludes me. If I don't get it, chances are there is someone else who is lost.
The points made ARE Valid. Many don't have xbox live nor an Xbox. It would be very unfair to these people. Add the fact that KOTOR III will be released for Xbox360. Plus why change what has won awards so much? KOTOR I won and KOTOR II used a fairly good replica. KOTOR III has to follow the same formula or it will lose people. Who knows/cares what will happen after that but for KOTOR III it can't go MMORG.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:40 am
by mr_sir
mmorpg stands for Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:34 am
by KyLewin
Well, as for the Rakatan planet, I don't think it would be such a bad idea. In fact, if you're going to go looking for the True Sith, it might be as good a place to start as anywhere else. I mean, these guys used to be the leaders of the "Infinite Empire," presumably, they've at least met the True Sith, prehaps even conquered them. Of course, that's assuming some records survived the fall of their Empire (perhaps in the temple or some underground vault), but it wouldn't be any more of a stretch than anything else that's happened in these two games.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:52 pm
by benji
Although, finding the rakatan planet would require finding the 5 star maps again or having one of revans old companions on your team, this would probably have to be either Bastilla, Carth*.
*having T3M4 and HK-47 again could be a little repetitive for some people, Canderous (Mandolore) was used in both games and would probably be too busy rebuilding the mandolorian clans, Mission can be killed by a dark side player as can zaalbar, Juhani and Jolee.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:53 pm
by FighterTundra
[QUOTE=KyLewin]Well, as for the Rakatan planet, I don't think it would be such a bad idea. In fact, if you're going to go looking for the True Sith, it might be as good a place to start as anywhere else. I mean, these guys used to be the leaders of the "Infinite Empire," presumably, they've at least met the True Sith, prehaps even conquered them. Of course, that's assuming some records survived the fall of their Empire (perhaps in the temple or some underground vault), but it wouldn't be any more of a stretch than anything else that's happened in these two games.[/QUOTE]
quote plz
@ FighterTundra: I don't know what the point of your post is (if you disagree, then state why, don't scorn it), but first of all, we don't condone quoting entire messages with something like 'quote plz' underneath in the first place. If you post anything this short again, expect it to be deleted', as it is spam. - Hill-Shatar
sorry, i didn't know what he whas talking about, i didn't mean to spam, sorry.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:56 pm
by FighterTundra
[QUOTE=benji]Although, finding the rakatan planet would require finding the 5 star maps again or having one of revans old companions on your team, this would probably have to be either Bastilla, Carth*.
*having T3M4 and HK-47 again could be a little repetitive for some people, Canderous (Mandolore) was used in both games and would probably be too busy rebuilding the mandolorian clans, Mission can be killed by a dark side player as can zaalbar, Juhani and Jolee.[/QUOTE]
i didn't know mandalore was canderous, am i mistaking or are you?
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:56 pm
by Hill-Shatar
[QUOTE=FighterTundra]i didn't know mandalore was canderous, am i mistaking or are you?[/QUOTE]
Mandalore is Canderous, there is no mistaking it. Kreia even refers to Mandalore as Canderous when speaking to him in one of the cutscenes during the game.