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C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:15 pm

Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>I don't really see the contradiction between "old-fashioned" medicine and what Thantor's discussing. Sure, he's throwing New Age terms at it (and terms in fairness which I sling around, too), and I think he goes over the top in making references to people like Bohr or Einstein, who would have scorned grasping cross-disciplinary phrases without actually doing the work and integrating entire theories.</STRONG>

I used to think there wasn't necessarily a contradiction between the two, but some of Thantors comments made me think that maybe there is? See the questions in my post above.

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:28 pm

@C Elegans, I think you put it well when you wrote to Thantor:

Why are you viewing non linear, interactive and multifactorial theory constructs as connected to alternative medicine and not to traditional/academic medicine? Of course the views are different, but I certainly don't agree they are opposites in all aspects.

I think he's used to arguing it almost as an advocate, in a court of law where the jury is predisposed against his client--hence, some of the hostility. IMO, it's misdirected, but I can empathize with his goals.

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:44 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yshania:
[QB]As a layperson, not educated in medicine, I understand there is alternative medicine and complimentary medicine. To give a basic example of my understanding of alternative medicine, Chinese treatment of eczema. Not suitable for all but highly effective in some. Complimentary medicine for me would include chiropractice. (Twisted spine!

) no, joking aside, through bad habits and posture I was recommended to see one. Along with the pain killers, his treatment and advice, and my sticking to his advice, I have made a huge improvement.

Yshania, I agree with you. When I was a kid, I was stuffed full of antibotics. My immune system is shot to hell, I take nothing but herbs and vitamins. I don't go to the doctors, unless it's to the emergency room. It's always good to get the ol' back straightened out, some of those getting pinched, do go to your organs also.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:49 pm

DP, read my post above about a certain herb (called Johannes herb in my language) and the effect on the immune system! I just want to make sure you are NOT eating this one, never!

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:52 pm

CE, I'm taking immune builders, it helps the body, to build up on it's own.

I have heard of that stuff, but never touched it. Thanks

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:53 pm

C E - I do not know for sure but I have heard warnings in the UK regarding St Johns Wort...St Johns/Johannes...

[ 07-09-2001: Message edited by: Yshania ]

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:57 pm

Good you know about it already DP, I was getting nervous there for a while. I checked the English name anyway, it's St John's Wort, Hypericum Perforatum.

Overuse of antibiotics is very dangerous, for the individual and for the development of resistent bacteria. Actually the widespread problem with resistent bacteria stems from the overuse in North and South America.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:00 pm

I take ginsing to improve my memory... or is it my erection. I can't remember

Seriously, most medicines come from a natural source, even if they are later synthisized... the only catch is they are tested and must prove reasonably effective. Is that such a bad thing? Herbs, to the best of my knowledge, still need no such proof in the US.

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:02 pm

Originally posted by Waverly:
<STRONG>I take ginsing to improve my memory... or is it my erection. I can't remember

Seriously, most medicines come from a natural source, even if they are later synthisized... the only catch is they are tested and must prove reasonably effective. Is that such a bad thing? Herbs, to the best of my knowledge, still need no such proof in the US.</STRONG>

Only if you smoke the herb.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:03 pm

C E

Waverly - penicillin

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:07 pm

Waverly, what do you need the penicillin for?

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:09 pm

Darkpoet LMAO!

I was only suggesting a modern drug found naturally - but maybe Waverly might need a dose lol!

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:13 pm

@Waverly: In Sweden we have this system: Anyone can open up a herb shop and sell his stuff. Swedish FDA only do some testing to make certain the products are not dangerous. However, they are not tested for efficacy, and not for degree of side effects.

Synthetic medicine is extensively tested for a minimum of 2 years before it is released in Sweden. Short term and long term effects of different dosage, as well as side effects and interactions are examined on healty subjects and on patients. We have much more strict laws here that in the US. Personally, I think that's a good thing.

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:19 pm

CE the herbs I take is approved. I have CFS so I have to keep a balance.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:23 pm

DP - what is CFS?

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:24 pm

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:28 pm

You are right, CE.
I think, I have it somewhat under control. But, it reminds me that it hasn't gone away.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:34 pm

DP, that make me even more impressed you're doing the kind of work you do.

@all: I have to go now. I'll check in later.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:35 pm

@Bye C E!

DP - what work do you do?

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:37 pm

Bye CE

@Yshania, I'm a fireman.