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Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 11:58 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by Astafas
Please elaborate a bit on this one, darling Viv!
Truthfully I assumed I was missing something...I don't always understand 'geek talk'...
*hug*
UncleScratchy:
Not that YOU speak in geek talk...you've got more of a country gnome accent...
*hug*
Your game sounds awfully fun...though I wonder if I'd have as much luck taming a dragon as Aunt Petunia
Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 12:09 pm
by UserUnfriendly
"geek" talk?
darling viv, are you in IT???
no surprise, most of us are, except the kids who wander into this forum cause they are like gameshark fans and think we're here for hand holding and diaper changing...
i refuse to explain patching and dumping the cache and other common chores any more!!!
vodka would help russian winters...i never trusted teh scientific explaination that alchohol would actually lower body temp, so if youre toasty you freeze to death sooner...keep thinking of the "antifreeze" effect in your car...
i suspect, and littz will bear me out on this, fetch the dwarf requires....
da da da dummmm
DWARVEN THROWERS!!!!
you knew this was coming, right???
was the person who laughed loudest in LOTR when gimli said "no dwarf throwing"....
giggle...
Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 1:34 pm
by Vivien
Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
"geek" talk?
darling viv, are you in IT???
no surprise, most of us are, except the kids who wander into this forum cause they are like gameshark fans and think we're here for hand holding and diaper changing...
i refuse to explain patching and dumping the cache and other common chores any more!!!
vodka would help russian winters...i never trusted teh scientific explaination that alchohol would actually lower body temp, so if youre toasty you freeze to death sooner...keep thinking of the "antifreeze" effect in your car...
i suspect, and littz will bear me out on this, fetch the dwarf requires....
da da da dummmm
DWARVEN THROWERS!!!!
you knew this was coming, right???
was the person who laughed loudest in LOTR when gimli said "no dwarf throwing"....
giggle...
*blinks* I don't know how antifreeze works in my car. Don't confuse me.
Of course, maybe you are talking about the faeries? I've known for awhile now that my car and computer are run by magical faeries and puppy's on little wheels. If you don't believe me, ask Mr. Sleep, he assured me that my theory was correct.
As I'm sure you've guessed, working in IT would require more techincal know-how than I have. I can alter my portraits for BG2, use shadowkeeper and clua, and switch saved games around...nothing else is needed.
(I work for the airlines)
I remember that thread
Those poor Dwarves
Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 3:52 pm
by UserUnfriendly
dorlin' viv, i completely assure you i have explained to many a happy client that yes, the little squirrels inside your computer are running down, or the rubber band broke, or its unhappy...
you gotta think of the anthromophization of mankinds machines, if a explaination makes sense within the subjects thought frame of references, a similar anology wotuld be the zeitgeist of a society, but hey i like to make my metaphors really work hard....
go squirrels, go!!!
but if a explaination makes better sense in acceptable framework of a persons personal referent, then in a didactical sense, that explaination is really what is happening...
so i have proven, by some wierd tortuous logic that has been designed to fool professors back in my college days, that symbolically and logically, there
ARE INDEED MAGICAL FAIERIES AND PUPPIES ON WHEELS IN YOUR CAR!!!!!
isnt sylogistical engineering and logical tautalogies fun???
trustme, dorilin' viv,
"As I'm sure you've guessed, working in IT would require more techincal know-how than I have. I can alter my portraits for BG2, use shadowkeeper and clua, and switch saved games around...nothing else is needed. "
i have worked with idiots who were not capable of that, and tehy will either
a) have a short brief and nasty career in IT, as they electrocute themselves somehow...(probably peeing on a transformer...the arc travels up the liquid path...OUCH!!!!)
b) become management...ick...
ok, i miss working.. well, should be able to go back to work in a few years...medical problems...
Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 9:48 pm
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Originally posted by Vivien
But yes, little people beat elves
Ode:
*hug* I'll invite you over for a slumber party. We can do each others hair and talk about what women REALLY want
I don't really agree with your argument, because you're still forcing me to stick with elves because they are long term and I'd have to keep training Halflings in as they grow old and die. *shrugs* Also, you're ignoring that my character finds halflings cuter than elves.
I thought I already mentioned that my character would be flitting from man to man...er halfling to halfling...not really staying in one place long enough to train one in..spending her summers frolicking with nymphs in the forests...spending her winters trying to teleport herself to Jamaica...
Woohoo! Slumber party! But only talking?
At least I got a *hug*.
If your character finds halflings cuter than elves then stick to halflings, I was merely trying to look at all the pros and cons of either race, and IMHO elves, from an objective point of view, have more advantages than halflings from the POV of usually long-lived elves/nymphs. However, I don't force people to do anything (Shades of Astinus here).
If you're going to flit from one person to another why limit yourself to a single race? Go with whatever/whoever takes your fancy at the time. Oh, yes, almost forgot.
Go Jamaica!
@Uncle Scratchy-
Gnomes beat elves?! Don't make me laugh. All you gnomes get is +1 to Intelligence, -1 to wisdom.
Posted: Wed May 15, 2002 9:53 pm
by The Z
Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Half-Orc Theives (the infamous 19/18/18/2/3/2
Almost gives away what race I am
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 7:15 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Originally posted by UncleScratchy
Obviously we have different definitions of the word "beat". I read Viv's original comment regarding "beating" to mean as in 'with a stick'. You've gone and muddied the whole thing by defining "beat" as some kind of arbitrary statistical measurement - as in 'my score is bigger than your score'. This type of argument is fine as long as were on the same playing field, but if you're elf is playing basketball and my gnome is playing golf (or Bait the Griffon, which uses similar rules) then the comparison of scores is irrelevant.
In the Underdark we'll see whether or not the drow elves beat my gnomes and in the Suldanesselar I think it'll be my gnomes that are bailing out those odius elves yet again. Oh, by the way, in LOTR isn't it the haflings that save the world and march home triumphantly as heros while the elves get shipped out? (he he - thats my favorite part of the book). Elves are always portrayed as a decadent stagnant race on the verge of extinction - maybe there's a good reason for that. Tiax had it right ...
You'll note elves get a +1 THAC0 and damage bonus to longswords and longbows. What do gnomes get a +1 bonus to, Mr Gnomes-are-so-good
? And before I forget, my score is bigger than your score
.
Drow don't count, they got officially kicked out as part of the elven race aeons ago. And the elves in Suldanesselar are just wimps.
How many kills did the LOTR hobbits get? Very few. How many did Legolas get? Loads. And that's ignoring the fact that it was Gollum who ended up destroying the Ring, not Bilbo or Samwise. Bilbo caved in and was going to keep it until Gollum unintentionally saved the world.
Besides, when did this thread degenerate into a "Gnomes vs. elves" thread? IIRC this thread was to debate the merits of
halflings vs. elves, not your degenerate race of mad tinkerers.
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:14 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
not your degenerate race of mad tinkerers.
Before I answer any of the other posts....
The first thing that came to mind when I read that line was:
"Them be fighting words!"
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:25 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Originally posted by Vivien
Before I answer any of the other posts....
The first thing that came to mind when I read that line was:
"Them be fighting words!"
I'm exercising my typical elven contempt for all non-elven races.
All I have to do is bide my elven abundance of time, one of his inventions will eventually blow up in his face
.
How long do gnomes ususally live for again?
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:38 am
by Arcane
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
How many kills did the LOTR hobbits get? Very few. How many did Legolas get? Loads. And that's ignoring the fact that it was Gollum who ended up destroying the Ring, not Bilbo or Samwise. Bilbo caved in and was going to keep it until Gollum unintentionally saved the world.
not your degenerate race of mad tinkerers.
well gollum still was a hobbit when he fell into the pit of doom. but i do agree with you Ode...since when did the short and mad get into this disucussion?
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:40 am
by The Z
Gnomes: Illusionist/Thief (Only multi-class that gets to specialize)
Elves: Fighter/Thief or Ranger (Bow/Longsword Bonuses too much to pass up)
Halflings: Thief (Bonuses in all thieving abilities, wheras Elf's get plusses in two areas and a minus to opening locks I think)
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:41 am
by Stilgar
Originally posted by The Z
Gnomes: Illusionist/Thief (Only multi-class that gets to specialize)
Elves: Fighter/Thief (Bow/Longsword Bonuses too much to pass up)
Halflings: Thief (Bonuses in all thieving abilities, wheras Elf's get a minus to opening locks I think)
You also have the fighter/illusionist
Posted: Thu May 16, 2002 8:44 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
However, illusionist/thief and illusionist/fighter gnomes miss out on Necromancy spells, which means no triple Abu Dhalzim's Horrid Wilting in chain contingencies.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 2:14 pm
by Vivien
Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
THERE ARE INDEED MAGICAL FAIERIES AND PUPPIES ON WHEELS IN YOUR CAR!!!!!
I knew I thought you were one of the smarter people on this board for a reason!
*hug*
Originally posted by UserUnfriendly
"As I'm sure you've guessed, working in IT would require more techincal know-how than I have. I can alter my portraits for BG2, use shadowkeeper and clua, and switch saved games around...nothing else is needed. "
i have worked with idiots who were not capable of that, and tehy will either
a) have a short brief and nasty career in IT, as they electrocute themselves somehow...(probably peeing on a transformer...the arc travels up the liquid path...OUCH!!!!)
b) become management...ick...
ok, i miss working.. well, should be able to go back to work in a few years...medical problems...
Rofl! Very Dilberty view of the world
AH...I wouldn't want to pry, but I'm hoping to come down with some sort of medical problem so as not to work
Not that I hate working, but clearly romping on a beach is much more fun.
I've walked under the planes in the hangers to no avail, as of yet, none of the wings have fallen on me
Ode:
Give it up. Not only are Halflings cuter, BUT they are happier to. Just take the number of meals they eat per day as one example, that's living life to its fullest!
Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 8:23 pm
by The Z
Plus they get a bonus in Slings
Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 10:12 pm
by Ode to a Grasshopper
@The Z-Woohoo, slings
.
@Viv-Never! Halflings eat a lot, 'tis true, however they all seem to be a bit dumpy as a result...
They are so not happier, how can any race that has such a short time to accomplish everything be as happy as the laid-back, laconic elves. Elves have much less stress, they can take things a lot slower because they know they've got many halfling life-spans to do things in. Halflings do tell better stories, though.
Take LOTR, for instance. Who feels the big need to rush into accepting the quest to destroy the One Ring? The hobbits. Who sits back, realizing that there's plenty of time until Gandalf tries to hurry everyone along? The elves. Note that the first LOTR movie ended with Frodo and Samwise going into Mordor, while Legolas (with Gimli and Aragorn) was going on a leisurely Orc-hunting holiday.
You stuck another "Halfling's Rule" sign on my back, didn't you Viv? *Sigh*
Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 7:43 am
by Rattman
just to start more fighting
IN A FIST FIGHT HALF-ORC'S WOULD WHUP ALL THERE ARSES
Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 7:51 am
by Vivien
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
@The Z-Woohoo, slings .
@Viv-Never! Halflings eat a lot, 'tis true, however they all seem to be a bit dumpy as a result... They are so not happier, how can any race that has such a short time to accomplish everything be as happy as the laid-back, laconic elves. Elves have much less stress, they can take things a lot slower because they know they've got many halfling life-spans to do things in. Halflings do tell better stories, though.
Take LOTR, for instance. Who feels the big need to rush into accepting the quest to destroy the One Ring? The hobbits. Who sits back, realizing that there's plenty of time until Gandalf tries to hurry everyone along? The elves. Note that the first LOTR movie ended with Frodo and Samwise going into Mordor, while Legolas (with Gimli and Aragorn) was going on a leisurely Orc-hunting holiday.
You stuck another "Halfling's Rule" sign on my back, didn't you Viv? *Sigh*
Ah sweetie
I see we agree. Yes, elves are lazy and rather useless in times of dire need
*hug*
Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:02 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 3:35 pm
by The Z
@The Z-Woohoo, slings.
Slings weren't THAT bad....ok...n/m....that's a losing argument......the only good part about slings and thieves is the buckler....though by ToB AC is almost useless.