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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:33 am
by ch85us2001
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:35 am
by Ravager
Another wedding? Lucky you.
I'm only just avoiding one that's happening soon. YAY!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:36 am
by ch85us2001
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:38 am
by Ravager
What's a perpetual motion machine?
Sounds impressive...
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:43 am
by ch85us2001
When you get all the energy out of a machine that you put into it its supposed to be impossible but I found a way to do it *SMUG* HOOOAH!!! Thats good old american brain powers at work!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:46 am
by Ravager
You thought of something that didn't lose energy through heat or friction?
Hmm...so much for the underwater wine maturing idea...
I'm thinking of putting a link to the SF in my sig.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:50 am
by ch85us2001
Yeah its basically an internal combustion engine (ICE) that runs off of hydrogen and oxygen seperated by electrolisis. And when hydrogen and oxygen combust what do you get??? Water! Therefore the cycle starts all over. The battery is charged by the crank and cams and obiously the lifters and valves could be modified to except gases instead of petrol and youd do away with the induction system. *SMUG*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:53 am
by Ravager
Don't moving parts still cause a loss of energy- through heat and friction?
Which would stop it being perpetual. And what would you do with the water caused by the reaction? If you got rid of it somehow (rather than turning it back to oxygen and hydrogen) then a refill would be required.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:55 am
by ch85us2001
Yeah but you still it will work forever without losing energy or requiring to put more in!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:57 am
by Ravager
So first, you fill it with oxygen and hydrogen, which then reacts to create water. Even if that makes enough energy to run an engine, what happens to the water? You have a finite supply of hydrogen and oxygen which would require refilling.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:00 am
by ch85us2001
No water can be seperated back into oxygen and hydrogen via a process called ELECTROLISIS! *slap* werent you listening!
So its just a cycle!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:03 am
by Ravager
Ah, yes. I just haven't seen electrolysis in years. It's been a while
There is this though:
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]It is worth noting that the maximum theoretic efficiency of a fuel cell is the inverse of that of electrolysis. It is thus impossible to create a perpetual motion machine by combining the two processes. See water fuel cell for an example of such an attempt.[/QUOTE]
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:06 am
by ch85us2001
BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! SPAMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for crushing my dream rav!!!!!!!!!11
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:11 am
by Ravager
I'm always here to ruin people's dreams. *looks for an article why wine shouldn't be matured at the bottom of oceans*
You might find this interesting...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell
Your idea has been done and patented already.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:15 am
by ch85us2001
He was from OHIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:17 am
by Ravager
Wow! All the geniuses come from Ohio then! Hmm...maybe not.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:21 am
by ch85us2001
*Strangles rabbit* yes! Yes! YES! ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!! *maniacal laughter*
Theres my cliche/evil quote of the day!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:23 am
by Ravager
More of your general craziness, I'd say.
I'll just retreat to a safe distance now...
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:24 am
by ch85us2001
BI!cycle race
Fat bottomed bob you make the rockin world go round!
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:27 am
by Ravager
Right...
This is one of those cases for agreeing and backing away right?