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prof. Moriarty wrote:I'd love to continue this discussion, should we make a new thread about good and awful beers?

God wills it!
prof.

So what would it be for you?

In my case it's a case of love your own...

... San Miguel Beer Pale Pilsen (from the Philippines)

or San Miguel Beer Light for those who are conscious of their love handles.

As for worst, hmmm... dunno... Thai Singha Beer? Tastes watered down.

I'm not young enough to have drunk everything. As far as beers go, I like Belgian Palm. But I'll drink a single malt Islay over a beer any day of the week, any time of the day.

Well, the OT on the previous thread was about american beers. So let's start there...
Myself, I've found that american beers is either poorly watered down moose urine (or what IS it Durkon Thundershield says in "On the Origin of P.C.s"?) or really, really good.
The good ones (those worth writing any more about) though, are mostly like belgian or irish beers that just happens to have been brewed in america. Not a bad thing. I love belgian and irish beers, but I think it shows that USA is a young nation where you can still find evidence of the immigration. The irish simply brought good beer to the new continent.

Deus Vult!
prof. Moriarty

prof. Moriarty wrote:The irish simply brought good beer to the new continent.

Good beer, strong women and tough fightn'. Aaah only seven months and twenty-seven days left until the next St. Patricks and I can imagine myself to be a druncaeir Éireannach again.

Best... Tiger Beer or Duvel.
Worst would have to be Estrella Damm or Belhaven St. Andrew's Ale.

Belgium Beer All The Way!!!
Personally, I like the Juppiler only, goes without saying, cold and fresh.
When it comes to taste, a good old Duvel or a nice trappist of West-Malle does the trick.

I really hate the Stella-Artois beer. It's just isn't made with care.

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SupaCat wrote: When it comes to taste, a good old Duvel or a nice trappist of West-Malle does the trick.

Some of the trappists taste quite well. Not quite sure about the Trappistes Rochefort, though. The 11,3% (or 22,6 proof if you want) tastes too much alcohol.

There are some distinct styles native to america. This is due to the different ingredients in america. In america we have our C hops: Columbus, Cascade, Centennial, Chinook, Crystal, etc.. They taste citrusy, piney. Some like Amarillo taste like grapefruit. So when we brew english styles of beer such as brown ale, pale ale, india pale ale, we have our C hops and the balance is more towards the hops than the malt - adittedly our malt is not as rich and flavorful as british malts.

Another distinct style was invented before California had refridgeration known as steam beer (I believe from the ice steaming which kept it cool?) It is a fairly hoppy (Northern Brewer and Cascade) beer with some amount of a caramel flavor and the interesting thing is the yeast character which is lager yeast at elevated temperatures. You get a smooth beer with a few esters giving fruitiness. Similar to kolsch (with more hops) and altbier although these are ales brewed at near lager temperatures which makes them smooth.

Wheat beer in america does not have the bananna cloves flavor like in germany (unless its brewed in the german style). It uses snappy slightly fruity yet mostly neutral yeasts.

Aside from having its own styles americans also emulate: german, british, irish, baltics, belgian, etc beers.

The absolute worst beer I have *ever* had, bar none, is Coors Light... God... I can't imagine how people can drink that stuff, talk about piss on a plate. I only actually drank it because it was one of those "needed-to-be-polite" occasions, and it was even worse than I had imagined it to be.


Thankfully I actually have trouble trying to list best beers, because I've tried so many that are great.
My home province has some excellent microbrews, and my favourites probably come from [url="http://www.nelsonbrewing.com/"]Nelson Brewing[/url].
I can't, at the moment recall exact names but in the US, Oregon produces some amazing microbrews.

Offshore, my vote would have to go with Belgian beers... The Trappist varieties topping the list.

Why do so many people know what urine tastes like? Am I missing something?

By the way, I like Bud Ice because it's smooth and tastes like beer but has no bitter aftertaste. As far as I know, it doesn't taste like urine to me. I once tried an expensive Czechoslovakian beer (I can't remember the name), and I can honestly say I have never tasted anything so acrid in my life, and I'm amazed that people actually pay money for it and drink it.

I think budweiser miller coors actually do what they do quite well. The dissapointing thing in the past was that was the ONLY style of beer available in america. It is like walking in a restaurant and there is only one thing on the menu!!

ROFL @ VonDondu

Personally, I hate Labatt Blue more than any other beer.

As for my favourites...I tend to like domestic Canadian beers, like Creemore.

VonDondu wrote:Why do so many people know what urine tastes like? Am I missing something?

Now that you mention it, it does seem like a strange expression

It must be that one time someone actually compared them and concluded that beer tastes like urine. It could actually be something like this, since the origin of such expressions is mostly strange and obscure...

lol!

Though the reality is that taste and smell are very closely related, and usually the smell of something provides a prelude to its taste.
If you have a child and have dealt with certain aspects of child raising, suffice to say that it isn't difficult to imagine the "taste" of urine.

For my money there's no such thing as a best beer, just the least worst! In that respect any Lager served cold enough to kill the flavour is a winner!

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dragon wench wrote:Offshore, my vote would have to go with Belgian beers... The Trappist varieties topping the list.

Same for me. In particular I like the Rochefort 10 a lot.

@Claudius: So, with my taste which american beers should I try? I have noticed that buying american beers in USA are usually 1/3 of the price compared to everything else.

Dottie: I would recommend being adventurous because you could find new styles that you hadn't expected you would like. Look for 'microbrews' on the menu or ask what beers are local. You might try some you don't like too. Its kind of a 'beer adventure' to find out what you like and don't like.

But specific to your love of belgian beers, I would try some of the american attempts. Its tough to replicate a beer spot on ie clone a certain trappist brewery so don't expect your favorite belgian beer to be duplicated, but hopefully some of the things you like about belgian beer will appear.

Here's an article with a few belgian inspired beers you might like to try:
Realbeer.com: American Beer Month 2000: Tasting Belgian-style Beers

Generally I know more about my own region. If you come to Michigan try Bells Oberon if it is Summer or Winter White Ale if winter. Both good wheats. If you like stout a delicious example is expeditious stout if you can find it or kalamazoo stout if not. Two Hearted Ale is a great example of an American Pale Ale (APA). There's other beer than bells...er but bells is the best!

In terms of nationally carried american beers I guess Anchor Steam is pretty widespread and their porter and steam beer are quite good. Sam Adams is good beer in general, although some of the styles are questionable (eg the cherry wheat is not exactly artificial tasting but the cherry flavor isn't quite right imo) and its hard to get anything but the lager in some locations which is a richer more flavorfull pleasant lager compared to standard american versions but it gets a little dull. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a tasty beer and a good gateway towards beers that contain more hops bitterness.

I have a few favorites because they change periodically...right now I'm rather fond of Blue Moon which is wheat beer that is actually brewed by Coors. Another couple would be Yuengling Lager and Augustiner Lager both brewed locally in Pennsylvania and possibly not available nationwide (USA).

The worst I would say would be some of the really cheap beer I was forced to swill down while in college. Genesee Cream Ale and Black Label come to mind.

dragon wench wrote:If you have a child and have dealt with certain aspects of child raising, suffice to say that it isn't difficult to imagine the "taste" of urine.

Well, sure. Anyone who has changed a little boy's diapers often enough has probably been sprayed in the face at least once.

Horse urine is the one I can't figure out.