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Swashbuckler class

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:05 pm
by jgordon4253
My friend let me borrow a few books to decide what race and class I want to be for an upcoming campaign. I haven't played much but understand the rules a little bit. I looked at a book called "The Complete Warrior". It had 3 new classes in it, the "Hexblade", the "Samurai" , and the "Swashbuckler." Then it was followed by like 100 pages of prestige classes. What I was wondering is if I had to be another class first then change to a Swashbuckler, or if I could be a Swashbuckler out of the gate? I have one friend that says I can't be because it isn't a class in the player's handbook. Please note this isn't the "DM/friend who gave me the books either. I'm just confused about what to do.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:40 pm
by jgordon4253
I was also wondering, since the new players handbook came out, I heard that you an no longer be a half-orc or gnome, is that true? So basically if I wanted to be a half-orc I couldn't anymore????

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:24 pm
by Siberys
There are only two types of classes. Core Classes (Sometimes called Character Classes) and Prestige Classes. Core you can go into at ANY point, level 1 or level 20, doesn't matter. Prestige classes, you need requirements.

So unless the class has an actual listing of "Requirements" under it, like all prestige classes do, you can go into it at any time. The first three classes in Complete warrior and the other 3 complete books (Arcane, Divine, Adventurer) are Core Classes.

As for the new 4th edition rules, that is true. Half Orcs, Orcs, and Gnomes are no longer considered core races, which is beyond stupid to me. They still have stats for them that you can use in the 4th edition monster manual, but you need to get DM permission for that. But....for me anyways, I wouldn't even bother with 4th edition, ever. No need for it.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:49 pm
by jgordon4253
Cool, thank you very much. The DM is a good one from my understanding, and is kinda laid back. I appreciate your help, and now I can call my friend at work an idiot for telling me I couldn't be a "swashbuckler." lol

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:07 pm
by CTK
In all of the books like that, the first set of classes they get always seem to be Core. The classes after that are the ones you have to meet requirements to use.

I'm actually making a Swashbuckling character out of my Fighter.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:41 am
by GawainBS
CTK wrote:In all of the books like that, the first set of classes they get always seem to be Core. The classes after that are the ones you have to meet requirements to use.

I'm actually making a Swashbuckling character out of my Fighter.
Check out Complete Scoundrel, it has some decent options for Swashbuckler/Fighters.