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Get a life and stop playing games for 18 hours a day might be a good start...Demortis wrote:
Their just lookin for a scapegoat... isnt there anything we can do?
That's easy. They were thinking, "Everybody has kids. So we'll have at least one, too. And we'll ignore it, after a while. Because that's what most people do, too."Moonbiter wrote:Get a life and stop playing games for 18 hours a day might be a good start...
Seriously, this is a result of horribly bad parenting skills, IMHO. I mean, what were they thinking?
Well, that's exactly what I was trying to say. You are formulating your thoughts much better than me, Fablefable wrote:That's easy. They were thinking, "Everybody has kids. So we'll have at least one, too. And we'll ignore it, after a while. Because that's what most people do, too."
You know, in the middle of this uproar about violent video games, I can't quite shake the feeling that there's something to the old saying "Monkey see, monkey do." You've been playing since you were 8? I have a son who's coming up on that age in a couple of years, screaming blue murder about the other kids in school getting all the cool games and so on... He goes to ski/slalom practice, fencing and piano classes, because he wants to. Each time I come to fetch him he's miffed because some friend didn't show up because they were at home with their nose glued to a screen. I could ramble on about the parents of those friends and their lives, but the point is, this is just wrong and Fable put it right in so many words.Jimwth wrote:He played for 18 hours a day? So what? I'm playing since my 8-th birthday, there was a time when I was playing for 24 hours day after day. I've played through some violent games several times (Manhunt, GTA) where you kill virtual people instead of aliens and, you know, they were returning, game after game, too.When I was younger sometimes my parents managed to restrict my access to my console/PC and I was really mad at them when that happened but that's all. It has never made me decide to kill anyone for real. In fact games maybe saved someone from getting hurt by me:laugh:
It is never a fault of a video game when people shoot each other. It's people's fault. If a teenager shoots his parents in cold blood it's either his fault - because he's insane - or the fault of his parents (in case he's normal) who haven't given him enough love and caring when he was younger.
I admit that video/PC games are addictive but they're not drugs. If you have someone who is dear to you, you will try to understand him/her no matter how angry you are at them, not to kill them.
If my son, at the age of 17, doesn't suffer heartbreak, wrecks my car and comes home 3 hours late to puke in my lap, I will get seriously worried! I really don't think that there should be an alarm. I see nothing wrong with playing video games at the age of 17, 18 and so forth. At that age I didn't met any girls because I didn't like those that I saw each day. I've never drank alcohol in all my life and never gone to most of parties which were made by my schoolmates - I couldn't tolerate drunk boys and girls that were vomiting all over the place. I liked PC games, and I had (and still have) few friends that were sharing my interests. I'm 22 now (23 in a month), I've got not a bad job, I'm married and we have a son. I will sell my soul for him if it'll be needed. I still play, but not much - it is enough for me. Oh, I forgot to mention that I'm also studying. I also finished (is that the word? sorry, I'm not sure how to say this correctly) music school (piano class). It took 9 years, I started when I was 4. The last 2 years of this was a time in the Hell for me to say the least. I realized that I didn't like it anymore.Moonbiter wrote:Then there is the obvious alarm that should go off when a 17 year old ain't out there chasing girls and getting into trouble, but spends every waking hour with a frikkin computer game!
"Where the hell have you been?"
"Oh, I was over at a friend's place playing XBox for 18 hours.."
"You're grounded for a month! No use of the computer unless you watch porn and you better steal some booze while you're at it!"
Guns dont kill people. 3/4inch holes kill people!Tricky wrote:Guns don't kill people, people. Irony does.
Jimwth] When I was younger sometimes my parents managed to restrict my access to my console/PC and I was really mad at them when that happened but that's all. It has never made me decide to kill anyone for real. In fact games maybe saved someone from getting hurt by me[/quote] Exactly wrote: You know, in the early Manchu dynasty, they used to give pretty hefty sentences to parents whose children became criminals after it was established that the parents neglected their upbringing. Not a bad idea, at all.
Then it seems like the very same judge supports the defense's argument:Judge Burge rejected the defence attorneys' argument that Petric, 17, of Wellington, Ohio, was not guilty by reason of insanity, saying that the teen's youth and addiction made him less responsible. Petric played the Halo games as much as 18 hours a day at friends' houses when he had the chance.
Granted, I think there's more to this situation than the article presents. Like fable and other members suggest, I believe parental neglect is more at play than the video games. The father sounds arrogant and overly laid-back with his parenting methods, at the least.Judge Burge said there was ample evidence that the boy planned to kill his parents. But the judge said he believed playing the games long enough caused physical and psychological changes in the teenager's brain, similar to drug use. "When you stop, your brain won't stand for it, just as it wouldn't stand for it when you quit using heroin or crack cocaine," he said.
Well, I'm not sure whether "drug use" or rather withdrawal falls under "not guilty by reason of insanity"? I know it doesn't in this country.Galuf the Dwarf wrote:<snip>Then it seems like the very same judge supports the defense's argument:
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