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A new KoTOR III just made for online?

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A new KoTOR III just made for online?

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I think this would be amazing, kind of like galaxies but better. You start off as basically nothing you can customize your character do whatever then you have to level up if you want to become a jedi, a sith trooper a bounty hunter etc, then main Jedi Master will be Master Zhar and the others from the council, the main sith Lord will be Darth Revan and Malak but only as his apprentice and so on.
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Post by Nar »

Interesting, but rather impossible, since KOTOR and KOTOR2 didn't even have a multiplayer. Personally, I would like a single player campaigne and then possibility to join others online - that would make happy both those who like playing single and the mmorpg lovers ;) .
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How would that be better than SW: Galaxies? Sw: Galaxies already lets you do all of those things, except I don't think you can become a sith soldier, cause it's set in the same time as the movies. Still I think you can become an evil jedi in it.
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yeah like i haven't got SW: galaxies but all i know is its basically exatly the same if they did a online multiplayer campaign would be good like WoW like make different clans of jedi choose to join the republic and sith and like you get honour points for killing the opposite team and rank up that would be good but i still prefer to original but maybe do my multiplayer idea during the mandalorion wars??
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I would like to play a star wars online for a console. (PS2, X-Box, Gamecube)

Not everyone has access to a good computer. Now a days a good computer means lots of money, complicated systems, and extra parts just to have a minimum requirment performance.

With a console all the games they make have great performance on every console the only thing different between them is a person can get performance parts for them, but they dont need to.

Controls for a computer are so difficult to remember, i mean there is so many different buttons with so many different actions i have to have the control manuel beside me. (exaduration)

Console controls are simple and easy to remember they because they have so little buttons they have to fit all the actions in the buttons which makes it kinda easy to use.

I'm not saying make it completely online have a single player mode continuing the story from the KOTOR series and have another story online. Have the player play through the sequel and then go online with the prequel.
(or vise versa) or have the KOTOR story continue offline and start a whole new story online.

Bottomline, online play combined with the KOTOR series would be more then interesting and would solve alot of arguments.
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Not everyone has access to a good computer. Now a days a good computer means lots of money, complicated systems, and extra parts just to have a minimum requirment performance.

Getting a very good computer with Web access, a hard drive many times the size of a console, a good video card, more RAM than any console, and the ability to do dozens of other tasks, costs as little as many consoles. This isn't speculation. Go price the latest Xbox vs a decent PC. I don't know what you mean by "extra parts." I've got a basics--no fancy parts--computer, and I've got 1 GB RAM, 3 gHz CPU, and a decent video card. I can play just about anything under the sun with excellent results, but I can also copy my CD collection, watch DVDs, use Word and Excel, write and receive emails, and visit websites like this one. :)

With a console all the games they make have great performance on every console the only thing different between them is a person can get performance parts for them, but they dont need to.

Many console games have been criticized by respected reviewers for poor and sluggish performance. Nor can the games played on one, be necessarily played onanother.

Controls for a computer are so difficult to remember, i mean there is so many different buttons with so many different actions i have to have the control manuel beside me. (exaduration)

Console controls are simple and easy to remember they because they have so little buttons they have to fit all the actions in the buttons which makes it kinda easy to use.


Controls for the PC are simple--what, you mean you have problems with a standard keyboard? :D Ever compare KotoR 1 for the PC and the Xbox? You had to use 6 or 7 buttons to do all the work and remember the multiple functions for each: now *that* was a nuisance. By contrast, there was an appropriate key for every PC screen: I for Inventory, etc. Simple, one click to get to, as opposed to as many as 6 or 7 clicks of a button on the Xbox.

Bottomline, online play combined with the KOTOR series would be more then interesting and would solve alot of arguments.

But you haven't addressed any of the reasons why online KotoR would be interesting, much less mentioned even a single argument this would solve. :) You've instead been PC-bashing, which was what caused my response. And your PC-bashing was factually incorrect, whether one likes the PC, or not.

Personally, I can't see part of the KotoR series online, unless they simply stick the name on an online game. The genres are too different: standalone RPGs are plot driven and tightly controlled, while multiplayer games (and I was a DM for 4 years for a popular for-pay MMORPG) are inherently formless and not goal driven, save that some players enjoy the leveling up. Compare the Ultima series with Ultima Online: two completely different experiences. Understand, I would have no objections to an online game set in the KotoR universe; I wouldn't play it, but obviously, you (and some others) would, if it were done well. But making it a hybrid, singleplayer/mulitplayer game would be a coding nightmare and certain death after release.
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a lot of the time the only thing that hinders whether you meet a games requirements is your video card, which is easily enough upgraded (provided you have the money for a new one which is why i can't play most very recent games), not the pc itself. as for online play. if a new kotor game was online only then what about those of us that prefer to play as a single player and have the option of multiplayer if we want it. a game that is purely online would leave out a lot of kotor fans.
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Silly idea....if you want to play an online star wars game play SWG or Battlefront II :mad:
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First the X-Box 360 runs on 4 ghz and any computer under one thousand dollars is pretty ****ty i mean come one a good video card alone is the price of a X-Box 360 so i dunno what kinda ancient computer you have but it must suck. Also the X-box runs on i think 4 hard drives each with their own field.

and second the purpose of my idea is i've played SW galaxies and frankly the game is limited to the SW movies but online with KOTOR series doesn't have to limit the things galaxies does like someone said you dont get to be sith in galaxies and as far as everything else graphics arn't as good as a console, gameplay isn't too bad but still i find console games to still be better.

I mean think about what a computer is built for compared to what a console is built for. Computer built for all kinds of things but a console is only built for games and DVDs now so their game performance is alot better then a computer.

I'm not bashing pc because when it comes down to it C-S sucks for x-box (the performance is good and all but the analog stick in place of a mouse is just harder to turn) and all other first person shooters. There are some games that work for both but like i said you need the minimum system requirment personally if your like me i have to get recomended system requirments.

And i should know ever since i was twelve years old i've known a guy thats got all kind of education on this subject because he owns a computer gaming store. And i'll trust him on this subject before anyone else.
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Post by mr_sir »

[QUOTE=marten0305]First the X-Box 360 runs on 4 ghz and any computer under one thousand dollars is pretty ****ty i mean come one a good video card alone is the price of a X-Box 360 so i dunno what kinda ancient computer you have but it must suck[/QUOTE]

you can get very good computers for a lot less than that these days and you can get a good video card for a lot less than an x-box 360 too if you look around and not just buy it in the first place you find it. i have a pc that is 2 years old yet the only requirement it ever fails to meet above the recommended system requirements is the video card and as i said earlier that is easily replaced. and my pc cost a lot less than 1000 dollars.

also, all the rpgs i have ever come across on consoles have been inferior to the rpgs you can get for the pc. this might change now they are bringing out better consoles like the x-box 360 and i have nothing against consoles as i own a ps2, but i think making a kotor game purely for a console would be a big mistake as they will lose a huge chunk of their market.
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Post by marten0305 »

Well i guess i over payed for all the cards i bought but at least there is no game or program that i cant run great anymore :)

But i still would like to see a online SW game that is not set in the the SW movies time. I'd like to see different forces and different conflicts.
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Post by Quinlan »

very bad idear. that wold destroy kotor. if u want a online star wars game u've got galaxies. sw galaxies is very similar to kotor in lots of ways but in one way it dosen't. kotor has a well put storyline. take that, take the dialogs, take the actors u take everything. kotor is not about experience points, not about guilds or contests, it's about art in it's true form. art in games dose exist. too bad there r so few of them

about the computer vs xbox.... well it seems that the computer is loosing, but i wolnd,t enjoy kotor on that... thing, not one bit. rpg, rts, mmorpg and other cool games are made 4 computer ONLY!!! the thing is the money part. I got to admit I have that problem as well, but i'd rather pay more 4 the pc then buy a dumb xbox, psp, ps2, ps3 or what eva. I hope the graphic evolution comes to a standstill or come up with some kind of revolutionary tehnology. if not the pc woun't be so "personal" any more
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Post by marten0305 »

Well there gonna kill KOTOR series with making a comic of it anyway. Because the best thing about KOTOR is the player shapes what happens in the game. If they make a comic book out of it we will have to know what happens in the game it will be like playin SWG which i dont totally hate but woulda went a different way with it. The only way i can think of it is they make the comic a prequel so the readers and players know what happened but they're just gettin a more detailed look at it.

And thats what i meant about offline play, they continue the story and online they make a different story or alter story.

Last but not least is there are players that would like X-Box better then PC and vise versa. Thats why it's important they continue making versions for both PC and console.

There that should solve everybodies agruments. (Doubt it :) )
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(of thread) pls understand

[QUOTE=marten0305]Well there gonna kill KOTOR series with making a comic of it anyway. Because the best thing about KOTOR is the player shapes what happens in the game.[/QUOTE]

let me tell u something about kotor... it isn't the comics that are inspired by the game. dark horse comics had launched a comic series long before the kotor game was ever going to happen. it was called "Tales of the Jedi". the action was placed in the old republic era... 5000 years before "A new hope". and it had the following titles "The Golden Age of the Sith", "The Fall of the Sith Empire", "Knights of the Old Republic", "The Freedon Nadd Uprising", "Dark Lords of the Sith", "Sith War", "Redemption". all the story is on the gamebanshee kotorII site. if u read it u'll see how well put together it is and that it has multiple points in common with the game, but only in the history of the game.

dark horse comics is about to continue the series under the name Knights of the Old Republic and the action of the game will be placed 8 years before the 1st game. between the game and the last comic of the seryes there is a 20-30 year gap
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you cant just go out and say that games are better on pc, i mean it depends on the game, i'd rather play GTA VC on pc, but i'd rather play san andreas on xbox, then you have to think about controls, i personally hate having to use the whole keyboard in some games, but if worst comes to worse just use an Xbox360 controller for pc :p

my pc is a couple of years old too, and always meets the requirements of games, it just that i chose not to use online games becuz i dont have unlimited broadband, and it costs me ****loads each month.

and again it really depends what game and genre, i mean i'd never play Fable/the lost chapters on pc, cuz i originally played it on xbox and im use to the buttons, when talking about whats better in this case you have to take everything, including diff games, genres, peoples own playing style weather it be pc or xbox, or controller or keyboard, there are many variables. anyways i'll leave it there. :)
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Post by mr_sir »

i agree with you totally on that. there are certain games i play on my ps2 that i could not imagine playing on a pc as i am used to the ps2 controls. i just think that making a kotor game that is purely for a console, or purely for pc, or purely for online would be a huge mistake as it would mean that a huge chunk of the market would miss out on the game. thats why i think they should keep it so it works on pc and x-box and possibly have an online feature for those that want it, but definately not have it online only.
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:mad: What is the deal with everyone wanting to play games online. It was fun at first with games like Counter Strike but, online rpgs??!!
First of all people like me who can't get broadband access are mostly left out in the cold when it comes to online playing. (Yes I live that far out in the middle of nowhere.) Sure 56k can be used on most online games, but you lag so far behind everyone else its more of an exercise in frustration than a game.
Secondly rpgs are great because of their story. It's like an interactive movie. Online game stories are patchy at best. It ruins the whole experience.
And I won't even start on having to pay a monthly subscription just to play a game you already spent fifty bucks on.
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Goddamnit since when evryone argues about pc's and consoles in a thread concerning making KotOR online?? Phew....let's concentrate on the right topic. KotOR purpose is clear - let people live through what force wielder's of that time had to go through, with some cinematic fight's and a deep story. Online games are soulless. Story there is only a cover for gaining up xp. But on the other hand, SW:Galaxies sucks :( I downloaded a free 2 weeks trial from fileplanet.com and I know it is not worth a damn. So, it is a little dissapointing that there is no online star wars game worth of attention.
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Post by marten0305 »

The comic and the game are two different stories altogether and really they arn't in the same time period i know i just finished reading them.

Like i said the comic they are gonna make about it and TV series is gonna kill the games.

Now back to the topic what i meant was i'd like to see a SW online game not based in the movies time period.
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im sure an online kotor would be a great succes, but not as kotor 3.
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