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Good Keyboards

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:58 pm
by dragon wench
I'm not sure if this should be here or in Tech Support... so SYM mods, please move if needed ;)

Anyway, I'm planning to replace my keyboard and I'm looking for suggestions.


Parameters:
*The lettering on the keys needs to be resilient, I don't want the paint to fade after two months
*I'd like it to be ergonomic
*I'd actually prefer wired over wireless (though I'm open to arguments ;) )
*Ideally, I'd like to pay less than $100 (Cdn or US)
*I'd rather avoid a mouse and keyboard package, I have an excellent mouse (Logitech G5) and I have no desire to replace it.

I have been considering the [url="http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=043"]Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard,[/url] but I've read in a few places that the keys lose their paint quite quickly....

Another option I'm exploring is the [url="http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2935483&CatId=3463"]Microsoft Reclusa[/url].

Thoughts? Advice? Suggestions?


Thanks! :D

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:17 pm
by Bloodstalker
If I ever paid anywhere near 100 bucks for a keyboard, I'd strangle myself with the wire when I got home. :p

I generally go to Wal-Mart whenever mine dies and pick up the cheapest one that comes in black. I've had this one for a good while now and there is no fade or chips on it...except where I occasionally get ticked at a game and beat on the thing. ;) It's an Aopen, at least that's what it says anyway. I paid somewhere around 20 bucks for it. I honestly can;t tell much difference between one brand and the other save for price anyway....and just like jeans it seems like the more expensive brands have to be babied more. :rolleyes: :D

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:38 pm
by DesR85
I've always use Logitech branded mouse and keyboards and they work fine for me. Anyway, I did come across a Logitech ergonomic keyboard but it is rather pricey (mouse & keyboard combo set). Not to mention that it is wireless. You can check the review at [url="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/logitech-wireless-ergonomics,1737.html"]Tom's Hardware[/url].

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:09 pm
by Loki[D.d.G]
A friend of mine has the Reclusa. Haven't actually given it a go, but according to him, it's pretty damn good. Looks pretty nice too, what with all those glowy LEDs.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:04 am
by Xandax
A number of us here at work use the keyboard in question.
And I have for a number of years for quite some time both at work and at home and have no problems with "keys loosing paint". I guess it is possible they're worn off fast, but with the amount of writing I do, it does not look like it for ordinary use.
I had an early version of this keyboard (white one) for many years and never had problems with the paint on that either.

Being a programmer - I type very much at work and I just love this keyboard, so if I do not wear it out, I doubt typical use would.

Plus it is very difficult finding "ergonomically" keyboards where they've haven't changed the position of the ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown keys :D
And I hate those, so it almost only leaves the Microsoft keyboards.

I would very much love a real split keyboard (where the two sections are separated in the middle so I can position them father from each other) but am unable to find one in Danish *grrrrr*
So if anybody knows of one - tell me, pleeeease.

If typing a lot - I find these ergonomically keyboards very good.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:41 am
by Ur-Quan
I am using a normal Logitech keyboard and am very pleased with it. I kinda dislike the shallow buttons fad which is more and more popular on more expensive keyboards. I use it intensively and my buttons are still marked, even thought I have sweaty hands so it is a miracle xD.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:30 am
by Noober
The Samsung DT-35 is probably the best keyboard in the world. Pretty much every single Starcraft progamer uses it (and pounds away at it for 18 hours a day at 300 APM), but IIRC it's only available in Asia. Basically, it's a standard keyboard, but the touch is said to be just perfect.

I use the Reclusa at home myself, and can't really recommend it. I don't care for the feel, and the inability to turn backlights off is an annoyance. The wrist rest is the best part of it.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:39 am
by Moonbiter
I go through keyboards really fast. Usually because they're not Tea/Coffe/Red wine proof, or because I just get tired of them. Tend to go for Logitech myself. Now that my son is away they have been lasting a bit longer, though... :rolleyes:

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:02 pm
by dragon wench
Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it! :cool:

I'm very strongly considering the [url="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3498&cl=us,en"]Logitech G15[/url] at this point...

I'll need to wait for a couple of weeks, and it's kind of an extravagance, but what the Hell! :D

I'm currently using an old Logitech Internet Navigator keyboard and it has been excellent... so part of it is "go with what you know."

Thoughts?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:30 pm
by Loki[D.d.G]
@DW,
Seeing as you are willing to fork out so much for a keyboard, I can't help but wonder, what kind of mouse are you using? Something over a hundred? :p

Kinda off topic I know, but this is SYM after all, so what the heck right?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:37 pm
by dragon wench
Loki[D.d.G] wrote:@DW,
Seeing as you are willing to fork out so much for a keyboard, I can't help but wonder, what kind of mouse are you using? Something over a hundred? :p

Kinda off topic I know, but this is SYM after all, so what the heck right?
lol! I have a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_G5"]Logitech G5[/url], it came with my "new" (now 2 years old) computer, and it is fantastic, best mouse I've ever used, period.

And yes.. I know that is a lot of money for a keyboard... The last number of years have been pretty rough and life has recently become quite a lot easier, so it's an indulgence after a whole lot of privation. ;)

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:47 pm
by Loki[D.d.G]
dragon wench wrote:And yes.. I know that is a lot of money for a keyboard... The last number of years have been pretty rough and life has recently become quite a lot easier, so it's an indulgence after a whole lot of privation. ;)
I see. By the way, I'm not judging here seeing as I myself am the kind of person willing to fork out top bucks for the latest tech. In fact as soon as I deem it prudent, I'll be building my next rig to replace this clunky laptop. Lets just say my budget is... erm... not your average budget. :o

Back on topic, I've been eyeballing the G15 too. So it would be nice to see some constructive feedback here.
The LCD is a killer, no?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:52 pm
by dragon wench
Loki[D.d.G] wrote:I see. By the way, I'm not judging here seeing as I myself am the kind of person willing to fork out top bucks for the latest tech. In fact as soon as I deem it prudent, I'll be building my next rig to replace this clunky laptop. Lets just say my budget is... erm... not your average budget. :o

Back on topic, I've been eyeballing the G15 too. So it would be nice to see some constructive feedback here. The LCD is a killer, no?
I totally understand your situation... been there way too much myself ;)
I too tend to place a high priority on tech toys (computer anyway), and in tight circumstances having a beer budget and champagne taste really sucks :o

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:20 am
by Kipi
Im currently using [url="http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=102&active_tab=systemRequirements"]http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=102&active_tab=systemRequirements[/url] for gaming. Nice keyboard.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:53 am
by Xandax
dragon wench wrote:<snip>
And yes.. I know that is a lot of money for a keyboard... The last number of years have been pretty rough and life has recently become quite a lot easier, so it's an indulgence after a whole lot of privation. ;)
It might sound weird, but in my opinion a keyboard is one of the most important parts of the computer. It really needs to fit you because it is - well the thing you interact with.
So spending (much) money on a keyboard in my opinion is very sensible. Similar for a mouse.

I'm thinking about buying a keyboard from a Swedish shop (and changing the key stickers to make it Danish) which costs thrice as much as any keyboard I've ever bought (it would be about 200-250€ for the board), simply because that keyboard isn't made with Danish layout.
So I do not think buying a G15 is expensive :D

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:53 am
by Loki[D.d.G]
Now I'm pretty torn between the G15 and Microsoft's X6 Sidewinder. The former has a cool LCD whilst the latter has the option of detaching and moving your numpad around. I also dig its cruise control key and adjustable red back lighting.

@Kip;
Seeing as you have personal experience with the Sidewinder, can you tell me if it is any good? Comfort and durability wise. I don't want paint fading left right and center after extended usage of the keyboard.

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:16 am
by penguin_king
if resilience is what you want then might i recommend [url="http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/3-7-years/b9a8/"]this?[/url]

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:14 am
by Merlanni

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:05 am
by Loki[D.d.G]
Merlanni wrote:Razer Lycosa, Arctosa or Tarantula. Razer | For Gamers. By Gamers.? | Gaming Hardware | Buy Online
The Lycosa and Arcosta lack dedicated macro keys, so that's a deal breaker for me. The Tarantula on the other hand, while attractive is kinda pushing my budget to the breaking point.

@penguin_king;
LOL! That's too colorful and robust for my taste. :p

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:03 pm
by penguin_king
i'm sure you'd get used to it :p

besides, if its designed to withstand whatever children can throw at it (literally, probably) then im sure it can stand up to DW's day-to-day usage :D