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Appraisal

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:27 pm
by fable
I didn't see any change to prices while highlighting different party members. Does this mean that the highest appraisal value of your party is automatically used upon buying and selling?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:56 pm
by mr_sir
In SoZ, I think it works like crafting, as in any party member can have the appraisal skill count regardless of if they are the selected character (just like in crafting any of the characters can have the necessary skills regardless of which one actually does the crafting). It definately affects prices as my first party lacked appraisal amongst other skills, as I didn't realise how important they were in SoZ. So I re-rolled a party and my wizard has points in appraisal. I have noticed a big drop in prices as a result, although the wizard is also the party leader - but I have accidentally accessed store whilst having a low appraisal character such as my cleric selected and did not notice a rise in price.

(Sorry if this is a bit long-winded, its 2am here :o )

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:07 pm
by fable
That makes perfect sense. Thanks!

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:57 pm
by swcarter
The game uses the appraisal skill of the person who initiates dialogue with the shopkeeper.

SWC

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:05 am
by fable
swcarter wrote:The game uses the appraisal skill of the person who initiates dialogue with the shopkeeper.

SWC
This contradicts what was stated by Mr_Sir, above. Does anybody else have experience on the matter?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:19 pm
by mistered
I'm not sure about appraisal but when I want to upgrade weapon, Safya is the only person who can do it since she has high weapon craft. But Mr_Sir is probably still correct since the gold appears the same in any member of the team.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:05 pm
by mr_sir
fable wrote:This contradicts what was stated by Mr_Sir, above. Does anybody else have experience on the matter?
I don't know for definate how appraisal works in SoZ, so my post isn't a reliable answer, its purely my observations from playing the game with various parties :) I too would be interested if anyone knows exactly how it calculates the appraisal for shops and if it is only the party leader - maybe once the leader accesses the store, it remembers that appraisal until your leader's appraisal changes, which is why the prices don't change for other characters?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:18 pm
by GoldDragon
When the PC first encounters a merchant, it sets the Appraisal value. ANd it remains as such until/unless the PC's Appraisal value changes.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:42 pm
by swcarter
I just tested it, and the prices changed depending on who I had selected when I asked to see the merchant's wares. Changing the selected character after bringing up the shopping interface doesn't change anything.

(But really, money should not be any sort of problem in the campaign. I ended up with 10 million gp or something the last time I played.)

SWC

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:07 pm
by Scottg
swcarter wrote:I just tested it, and the prices changed depending on who I had selected when I asked to see the merchant's wares. Changing the selected character after bringing up the shopping interface doesn't change anything.


SWC
Exactly, BUT they don't change much do they (for the skill point expenditure)? Further, what happens to your sales? ;)

Other than the rare additional dialog choice which adds "flavor" to the game (..and notably for this skill is never required), Appraisal is a worthless skill.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 pm
by mistered
value of appraisal

Starting from mid ACT 2, we'll have more gold than we need.