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Modding a class: Kensai/Assassin. Is it possible?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:15 pm
by Kerosene
I can't do it with shadow keeper. If I select the kit Assassin, it changes the 2nd kit.

If I select Kensai, it changes the 1st kit.

Anyone got an idea on how to actually make it say Kensai/Assassin, and make it work good?

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:22 pm
by RPGguy
I have no idea if it can be done though I highly doubt it.

If you do figure it out, let me know so I can mash a conjurer with a sorcerer. :D

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:39 pm
by vonhizzle
Yea only one kit is allowed. However if you do a dual class, level up as a kensai then dual and change your kit to assassin it should work. You have to set your thief level to zero so that the game gives you your assassin bonuses when you level up and set your thief skills to 25 total so after leveling up you will have 40 (I think), lvl 1 thief should have 40 thief points so make sure its right. Wont show you as a kensai anymore but all the kensai affects will still be there. Haven't tried this but I suspect the kensai item restrictions will disappear. Once you get UAI they would be gone anyway so might be ok to you.

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:52 pm
by Kerosene
Too bad RPGguy, it seems like we can't do such a thing... :(

And, in fact, I did start off with thief skills, about 40 skill points on the skills and stuff. I switched the kit straight to Assassin when I dualed. And yes, the restrictions for Kensai is gone, but there's a skill that's a must for Kensai/Thieves in the later stages when you get the "epic" skills called Use All Items. I think you'd know what it does. :P

So that's not too much of a problem.

The question is, will I still have all the things I have acquired from the Kensai class? (Such as the +1 hit increase and Kai).

By the way, I know that dual classing gives you the advantages of the class you dualed from, but, for example, as a Kensai you get a +1 to hit every 3rd or 4th level or something. That doesn't apply when your a thief, right?

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:40 am
by vonhizzle
Idk if you get the bonuses while you are a single class thief but once you reactivate your class, I think the bonuses will be there. I have never done this before and am pretty much just going off something Userunfriendly did when he made a Kensai/Sorc. However, I am just realizing that his was a bit different as he was not dual classing and instead just changing the class from fighter to sorc after leveling up as a Kensai.

Sorry I can't be more help. I am not really interested in these classes because they are too messy/don't work 100% kosher :D

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:28 am
by Kerosene
Ah well. Thanks anyways. I'll keep you guys posted.

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:36 am
by Kerosene
No Kai...

=.=

I'll have to add 3 of them in to my character through ShadowKeeper...

But I think that I should just stick to Fighter/Assassin. Kensai/Thief wouldn't be as strong as Fighter/Assassin anyways.

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:21 am
by Edar Macilrille
Kensai/Thief/Mage... slow lvl progress, max kill. I call it jaegersoldat.

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:21 am
by galraen
For information only. It is possible to modify a kit so that it contains all the benefits of both classes, but it's very complicated and involves editing the .2da files, not for the faint hearted, or those who don;t have hours to spend tinkering. I have attempted it, with some success, but then felt like I was cheating all the time, which of course I was, and it made the game far to easy.

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:11 am
by Kerosene
Huh...

Don't wanna sound pushy or whatever...

But could you edit my character for me?

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:53 am
by galraen
As I tried to explain, it's not about editing a character, it's about editing the data files the game uses, it requires a lot of time and effort, and you'd have to start a new game. I was only posting for information only as I noted. If you want to go to the trouble of editing the game thoroughly, or find alternative class kits, then I suggest you contact Spell Hold Studios or Chosen of Mystra.

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:26 am
by vonhizzle
Galraen, you are talking about editing the kit files right? That is a good idea, if you open the file kitlist.2da it will list what file each kit uses. Kensai is clabfi05, however this file was not in my override so you would have to open it in nearinfinity and export. Once you get the files open doesn't seem to hard to copy and paste :D

Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:28 am
by Kerosene
Oh.

Well...

I'll see what I can do, and if anything does happen I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for telling my about those things.