who is Artemis?

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 1:43 pm

I used the CLUAConsole to create Artemis. Who is he, he's pretty tough to beat. He doesn't initiate any dialog or anything like that. Oh, did anyone tried using the MDK2 summoning cheat. My game crashed when I tried.

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 2:09 pm

Here is some information I dug up. I know its not his history or anything but it gives you a good idea of his stats and why he is so tuff.

Artemis Entreri

Human male 11th-level thief/15th-level fighter
ARMOR CLASS: -2(-6)
MOVE: 12
HIT POINTS: 107
THAC0: 5
NO. OF ATTACKS: 5
ALIGNMENT: Lawful evil
STR 13
DEX 18
CON 15
INT 16
WIS 15
CHA 13

Thieving Abilities: PP 80%; OL 65%; F/RT 50%; MS 99%; HS 90%; DN 55%; CW 99%;
RL 20%; SU 75%.
Weapons of Proficiency: Specialized in the two-weapon style and has the ambidexterity proficiency.
Other proficiencies are short bow, light crossbow, dagger (thrown and wielded), rapier, sling, staff,
long sword, short sword; 2 open.
Nonweapon Proficiency: Blind-fighting, direction sense, disguise, endurance, rope use,
survival (northern wilderness and desert), tight rope walking, tracking; 1 open
Equipment: Standard adventuring gear, which in his case includes thieving tools, spare weapons and clothes, rope, and so on.
Magical Items: +4 Cloak of protection, +4 dagger, defender (life stealer), +2 ring of protection,
and a sword of wounding +1 (sometimes referred to as a saber).
Specials: No to hit penalties for using 2 weapons at once. This is attributed to near perfect eye-hand coordination.
Permanent infravision.

Delacroix · Post by **Delacroix** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 2:46 pm

Mythology: Artemis - Female god of born, hunt and moon. Child of Zeus and Leto. Sister of Apolo. She was very proud of her purity and the purity of her followers. Because of this purity she have some problems with Calisto. As a god of hunt she was ever drawn with a Bow and arrows.

Why he is male, Thief/fighter and don't use bow, I don't know.

carroljt · Post by **carroljt** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 2:55 pm

If I remember correctly, and it's been a while, there was a character named Artemis Entreri in the Dark Elf (Drizzt) series of books who was a fighter/thief type character and was one of the only swordsmen to ever be able to go toe-to-toe with Drizzt and walk away. I will have to look that up when I get home to be sure, but I am guessing that this Artemis is the same one.

mikeheitz · Post by **mikeheitz** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 2:58 pm

Artemis Entreri is Drizzt Do'Urdens arch-rival and mortal enemy. THey have had many duels, with both able to claim small victories. Artemis is nearly Drizzt's equal in battle, and usually it's Drizzt's need to look out for his friends that Artemis exploits. Read any of the Dark Elf books by Bob Salvatore. Artemis shows up in most of them.

Stoner Cold · Post by **Stoner Cold** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 3:19 pm

yeah, thats all very nice, but why in the blue hells in he in the game? you dont meet him or anything, do you?

and the MDK2 thing crashed my computer too. pain in the @$$, that was.

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 3:47 pm

I heard that Artemis is in Icewind Dale, is that true? I'll just read some Drizzt books to learn more about him. Regarding the MDK2 summons, the summons are extremely powerful. They are armed with crazy ranged weapons and have a lot of level 1-8 spells.

Stoner Cold · Post by **Stoner Cold** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 4:04 pm

about the mdk2, how do you get it to work though? it just crashes the game

incandescent one · Post by **incandescent one** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 5:08 pm

I just read up on Drizzt's stats and 'special abilities'. My first impression was 'what a f'in joke'. My second was, 'why the heck is he so popular ?'

So that's what I'm asking basically. I've read some sample chapters of books featuring Drizzt, and I've picked some of them up at Barnes&Nobles, and flipped through them.

Personally, I believe the books are neither very intriguing, nor very well written. Why are there so many fans of the series ? I just want to see the thought processes of the people who read these books.

mikeheitz · Post by **mikeheitz** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 6:14 pm

Transcendent... Thank goodness you are in the minority.

Salvatore's books are extremely well written and the flow from one series to the next is amazing. Unlike some fantasy writers out there, Salvatore doesn't have to be long winded to tell his story. There's plenty of action, and if you had read more than a "sampling" you would feel the same bond to his characters that all his fans do. Even the villain, Artemis Entreri, has his place and the parts of the books he is in wouldn't be the same without him. HOWEVER, if you don't get off on the ultimate Good VS. Evil plots, then chances are these books are not for you.

I would have to say that the only other fantasy writing I enjoy as much would be the Elminster books by Ed Greenwood. The only fantasy writing better would obviously be Tolkien.

just my opinion, but if you haven't read any of his work you are being critical just for the sake of being critical.

Robin_Hood · Post by **Robin_Hood** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 10:32 pm

The same kind of thread was discussed a while ago and someone mentioned that Artemis Entreri was supposed to fight on Bodhi's side in the final battle against her. The one which Drizzt and others take part in.

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Thu Aug 30, 2001 11:54 pm

Originally posted by Robin_Hood:
The same kind of thread was discussed a while ago and someone mentioned that Artemis Entreri was supposed to fight on Bodhi's side in the final battle against her. The one which Drizzt and others take part in.

That was me. From what I've heard Entreri was *supposed* to do this. However, he was never implemented in the final version of the game.

Salvatore's books are a must for all BG players. Read them if you haven't already!

@humanflyz:

I sincerely doubt it, since Artemis isn't born at the time IWD takes place.

Stoner Cold · Post by **Stoner Cold** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 2:54 am

thats all very nice, but how do you work the mdk2 spell?

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 3:29 am

Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
thats all very nice, but how do you work the mdk2 spell?

This is the second time you ask this very question. You've got no answer yet. Therefor, there is a slight possibilty that none of the persons who have read this thread knows the answer. And should this in fact be the case, posing the same question several times probably won't help you.

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mikeheitz · Post by **mikeheitz** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 7:32 am

Originally posted by Astafas:
I sincerely doubt it, since Artemis isn't born at the time IWD takes place.

Astafas, are you talking about the Icewind Dale Trilogy, or the game? Artemis is in the Icewind Dale Trilogy. He is after Regis and travels all the way from Calimport to hunt him down.

Not sure about IWD game, as far as the time setting is concerned.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 8:15 am

Originally posted by transcendent two:
I just read up on Drizzt's stats and 'special abilities'. My first impression was 'what a f'in joke'. My second was, 'why the heck is he so popular ?'

So that's what I'm asking basically. I've read some sample chapters of books featuring Drizzt, and I've picked some of them up at Barnes&Nobles, and flipped through them.

Personally, I believe the books are neither very intriguing, nor very well written. Why are there so many fans of the series ? I just want to see the thought processes of the people who read these books.

He's popular because he's got tons of marketing money behind him, and because nobody bothers to reprint a lot of the older fantasy (pre-AD&D, when books weren't churned out to specifications by poorly paid hacks in a month's time) that would make Salvatore look silly.

It's also a case that most people want the lightest reading possible: just as pulp romance novels sell better than, say, Rafael Sabatini or Celine, so Salvatore sells better than fantasy that requires thought while reading--attention to brilliant detail, great narrative skill, etc.

But I'd agree, he's really not a good writer at all. Neither was Jakes, and his fantasy stuff twenty-five years ago sold far better than Leiber, de Camp, Vance, etc.

Just my POV.

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Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 8:20 am

Originally posted by mikeheitz:
Astafas, are you talking about the Icewind Dale Trilogy, or the game? Artemis is in the Icewind Dale Trilogy. He is after Regis and travels all the way from Calimport to hunt him down.

Not sure about IWD game, as far as the time setting is concerned.

I though humanflyz referred to the game (cause he wrote Icewind Dale and not Icewind Dale Trilogy), so this is what I was referring to as well.

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 8:25 am

Originally posted by fable:
It's also a case that most people want the lightest reading people: just as pulp romance novels sell better than, say, Rafael Sabatini or Celine, so Salvatore sells better than fantasy that requires thought while reading--attention to brilliant detail, great narrative skill, etc.

Ain't you being just a little bit condescending here to those of us who like Salvatore's books?

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 9:28 am

Originally posted by Astafas:
Ain't you being just a little bit condescending here to those of us who like Salvatore's books?

No, I'm being condescending to Mikeheitz's apparent condescension:

Transcendent... Thank goodness you are in the minority.

There's no reason to thank anything that someone is alone in disagreeing with you, or to think that the majority of people share your attitudes and tastes.

But I was curious if the majority of people up here, some of whom clearly enjoy Salvatore, would let this kind of tone pass if it was aimed at them, instead of at their sole outspoken opponent.

In truth, I think Salvatore is a competent writer and little else. I certainly don't think less of people who read him, anymore than I think less of my wife who reads Joanna Lindsey romances. But I put it like I did, to test the waters.

Carry on.

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Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 11:10 am

@fable:

Fair enough; good answer. Leaving for party now so see you tomorrow.