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I'm currently reading through the readme of the Rogue Rebalance Mod, and I must say it looks rather good! I'm not normally for altering the game in major ways, but this mod seems to make rogues alot more interesting without making them terribly overpowered at the same time. As I have a cool avatar for a Human male Assassin, I'm thinking of giving this a try, but I have some questions to anyone who's experienced with using this mod:

Are there any problems running this with BGT? I.e. are there any major compability issues I should be aware of?

In the vanilla game, rogues have terrible thac0 which is my main gripe with playing one. Typically, you'd have to roll a Fighter/Thief or some type of Dual-class combo to amend this. Are there any changes to Thief/Bard thac0 tables besides for the Swashbuckler?

Not sure I like the way they've changed the Assassin's Poison ability; from what I gather, it's now a straight damage ability doing 1d3 + 1/level rather than the highly useful damage over time effect from the original. Am I missing something?

EDIT
Saw a really cool component that revises stealing! That's something I've been searching for for a very LONG time; but the component apparntly requires something called "ToBex". "ToBex", afaik, is still in it's beta stage and the author warns about using it...but this component is too cool to miss out on! So has anyone tried this part and know if it's stable? /EDIT

Thanks, Thomas

Are there any problems running this with BGT?

None that I encountered.

I can't answer the other questions. The only problem I had with the mod (which also is good for Bards) is that it replaces the +3 Backstabber shortsword with a plain +3 shortsword. This I guess isn't a problem if you want to be a guild leader, but I found the thief stronghold to be a boring waste of time, and have never bothered with it since the first time I tried it.

galraen wrote:None that I encountered.

I can't answer the other questions. The only problem I had with the mod (which also is good for Bards) is that it replaces the +3 Backstabber shortsword with a plain +3 shortsword. This I guess isn't a problem if you want to be a guild leader, but I found the thief stronghold to be a boring waste of time, and have never bothered with it since the first time I tried it.

You haven't tried the "better stealing"-component, then? What about thac0 tables for other rogue kits/plain rogues? Yes I know it also affects Bards, I'm contemplating to play one, aswell.

Never tried the Thief Stronghold, so I can't comment on that. Please don't spoil anything. As for the Shortsword of Backstabbing:

"Note: It is no longer possible to obtain the Short Sword of Backstabbing from Renal Bloodscalp after completing his quest. Renal will now merely award the party with a generic Short Sword +3. The revised Short Sword of Backstabbing has been transferred to Aran Linvail and can now be acquired from him in Chapter 6. The Shadowmaster will give the blade to the party if the protagonist successfully convinces him to aid the party in the battle against Bodhi. The only other way to get the revised Short Sword of Backstabbing is to side with Bodhi in Chapter 2 and kill Aran as a part of her final task."

"Note: It is no longer possible to obtain the Short Sword of Backstabbing from Renal Bloodscalp after completing his quest. Renal will now merely award the party with a generic Short Sword +3. The revised Short Sword of Backstabbing has been transferred to Aran Linvail and can now be acquired from him in Chapter 6. The Shadowmaster will give the blade to the party if the protagonist successfully convinces him to aid the party in the battle against Bodhi. The only other way to get the revised Short Sword of Backstabbing is to side with Bodhi in Chapter 2 and kill Aran as a part of her final task."

Why? A totally unnecessary change, the vanilla sword is in fact not really any different to an ordinary +3 sword unless you're using another mod, and if you are using another mod and intend wiping out the thieves guild then it's even more annoying.