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So i was bored... so i made a multi-player party... this is how it turned out..

Fighter... CN 5* in staff and 1* in two handed weapon... he'll use Rynns staff in the beginning...

Fighter... LE 3* in dagger and 3* in two weapon fighting... Duall wielding Pixie prick and nebs nasty cutter...

Fighter... N 5* in Darts and 1* in one weapon.. Don't know what dart... crimson??

The rest i don't know... any other wierd suggestions??? it must be a class with a wepon they never use...

Thankx for the help...

Archer not using bows or slings is an idea.....
Fighter with 5 stars in scimitar or club...
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Half-Orc with 5* in clubs would be good.

"Me bash you to goo."

Halfling with Longbows.

A kensai dual wielding Clubs, THAT'S totally ludicrous

Halfling Berserker - uses Halberds

Another idea - Mage/Cleric that doesn't cast ANY spells except mental ones - charm / dire charm / emotion / horror / feeblemind / doom. No damage spells. This is an idea I've had for awhile, but in investigating it I wonder if it is feasible - looking at the spell tables there are hardly any high level powerful charm spells! I think this is an oversight - there should be some really powerful charm spell, right?

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: THE JAKER ]

Originally posted by THE JAKER:
<STRONG>Another idea - Mage/Cleric that doesn't cast ANY spells except mental ones - charm / dire charm / emotion / horror / feeblemind / doom.</STRONG>

Problem with these spells is that they all have a saving throw. Considering magic resistance is a problem near the end of the game, think about how many saves will be failed even if you get through the resistance...

Of course, the Power Words and Nature's Beauty still work, but I'm not sure if those qualify as "mind affecting".

a varient on THE JAKER's idea, a cleric that does not cast any healing spells.

Xyx, I agree about the character I have outlined above, and this is exactly my problem - The upper spell tables become dominated by powerful attacks/defenses/summons.

I would say that nature's beauty would qualify...but that is a judgement call, I think that you could sort of imagine some spells as being mental or not being mental. As far as saving throws, you are of course right, but I would include: Doom and Greater Malison in any potential spell list for this character. NOT including those spells would be suicide. I think maybe Power Word, as well, and we all know how much everyone loves those Power Word spells ...

(The actual inspiration for this character is "The Mule" in Asimov's Foundation series - he is a physically weak and bizarre person who does nothing except manipulate others mentally and nearly conquers the Galaxy before being discovered)
Note I edited this post because I think I was just too longwinded..

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: THE JAKER ]

Gnome cleric/Theif...

Originally posted by THE JAKER:
<STRONG>and we all know how much everyone loves those Power Word spells ... </STRONG>

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there? Actually, I would estimate that in one-on-one fights, Power Word Blind is one of the killers. It's no Nature's Beauty (duration is too short), but it cannot be deflected/bounced/trapped, has no save and is very disabling (to enemies, at least). Casts incredibly fast too, of course.

a note to Koz - Ivan, above re:
A cleric w/ no healing spells.

I often have a cleric w/ no healing spells. What with the rings of regeneration, Gaxx, all the healing potions everywhere, rods of resurrection, I think all the regular healing spells are just kind of a waste...

I do like the ultimate healing spell, Heal. At least it does the job (and for free unlike rod of resurrection). w/ TOB installed, Greater Restoration is cool - it fully heals AND restores every party member - now THAT'S a healing spell.

Other than those specific spells, I think a cleric's prayers are better answered with combat enhancing spells and free action, chaotic commands, DEATH WARD, neg plane protection (not that great because of duration but casts fast at least), and summoning spells.

I edited this post I was writing too much that day

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: THE JAKER ]

Don't forget a Cleric theif gnome weilding to Wazakishis(are they the small ones?)

How about a Necromancer specializing in defense spells?

dual wielding daggers

how bout a halfling fighter yelding twohanded swords

a dwarven assassin weilding clubs or spear...

Cleric can't use wakizashi
No bladed weapons, remember?
Elven Barbarian
Dwarven Theif
Gnomish Barbarian
Archer - Gradmaster of Slings
Halfling Diviner
Can halflings be monks?

Did I mention The Gnomish Barbarian was proficient in Halberds?

Yeah, something about a halfling with a nine foot long polearm, busting everything up, is just such a great image...

Unfortunately, AD&D halflings cannot be monks...or mages (so what about that halfling mage in the planar sphere????!!!??? That little bagger!) Anyway, in the 3rd edition rules a lot of these silly restriction will disappear...

Bagger? you mean Badger?