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Skills

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:41 am
by gist123
for MMXII:
What about diabolic skills lethal strike and hawkeye? Do they work correctly? Did somebody find cataclysm/rune speed scroll?

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:49 pm
by Claudius
gist123 wrote:for MMXII:
What about diabolic skills lethal strike and hawkeye? Do they work correctly? Did somebody find cataclysm/rune speed scroll?

Both lethal strike and hawkeye work. The former is a little better because bows don't do a lot of damage. But certain enemies such as red ninjas are easily dropped with a bow. You get a cataclysm rune in the tomb of souls (I think it's called that). You choose between warrior weapons and mage. I don't recall rune speed. If it just raises speed then gear should give you that.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:44 am
by gist123
Unfortunately cataclysm and speed scrolls (not books) dont exist. Also i cant get critical chance more than 22 (high dexterity, equipment bonusses), but i think dodge chance can be reached at 100 (high agility, equipment bonusses), now i have it at 42. Did somebody get critical chance at 100? What max damage did you hit enemy with melee weapons on single strike? What is the 'power' attribute on equipment?

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:47 am
by galraen
Cataclysm does exist, but you can't purchase it until after you find it then sell it to a shop keeper. It's not easy to get, you have to make the right choice in the Tomb of Souls.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:06 am
by gist123
In the Tomb of Souls I got cataclysm spell book (tome) but I told about scroll. I beat the game with wizard without any troubles (scribe at 15, lvl 44, fireball and blast nova scrolls (mount 15-20)) now I want to play it again with another class (preference warrior). I want to ask somebody for useful information about what class in DL MMXII (except mage/adept) also makes gaming process fun and easy.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:40 pm
by Claudius
@gist, the valkyrie is the power class of the game. Armor, weapons, opens adept spells.

If I play again I will be:

rogue (dual wield)
valkyrie
mage
battle mage
war witch

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:20 am
by GawainBS
Why Warwitch? Especially with dualwield, I'd go for Warangel. Selfhealing while damaging opponents beats Warwitch's chance of charming the opponent, no?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:34 pm
by Claudius
Probably. I forgot that the trajectory of the sisterhood had a new option than warwitch. :oops: Does Warangel get armor and shield?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:26 pm
by swcarter
Claudius needs to look at the [url='http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords/classes-mmxii.php']classes page[/url] for MMXII. His list of classes doesn't actually go together. For a dual-wielding armor-wearing mage, you could try Mage / Fighter (armor) / Enchantress / Samurai (dual wield) / War Angel.

SWC

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:47 am
by GawainBS
Claudius wrote:Probably. I forgot that the trajectory of the sisterhood had a new option than warwitch. :oops: Does Warangel get armor and shield?

It's a non-issue. Warangel follows out of Valkyrie.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:26 pm
by Claudius
According to the table linked rogue can grow up to be a war witch or blade witch http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords ... -mmxii.php

Some people think only adept or mage can continue as valkyrie, but really rogue can too. Rogue gives dual wield. That is about the highest damaging fighting style.

rogue -> valkyrie -> blade or war witch

mage -> battle mage


I don't see how my classes are not valid.

EDIT: I am wrong http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords ... -mmxii.php

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:18 pm
by GawainBS
Every female character can become a Blade Witch or a Valkyrie, as long as she has joined The Sisterhood.

EDIT: I was too quick to reply. MMXII is even worse than I thought.
A Dualwielding Fighter/Mage with Valkyrie is out of the question, I suppose.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:20 pm
by Claudius
You could become a mage/bladewitch/war witch
adept/paladin

*dual wield
* armor
* mage spells
* celestial spells
* nether spells
* rune spells

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:22 pm
by Claudius
Gawain, mages and rogues can become bladewitches and Fighters and adepts can become Valyries. Check my link.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/dungeonlords ... -mmxii.php

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:27 pm
by GawainBS
Yes, I noticed it, I was too quick to reply. Too bad your combo above can't add War Angel.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:27 pm
by Claudius
A Dualwielding Fighter/Mage with Valkyrie is out of the question, I suppose.

Fighters and adepts can be valkyries :)

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:31 am
by GawainBS
Yes, but a Dualwielding Fighter who is a Mage who is a Valkyrie?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:56 pm
by Claudius
Yes. It just has to be fighter or adept for half the class.

I don't think you can make a fighter->valyrie->Lord or Deathlord/// because the chain has to be unbroken of the sisterhood classes.

So a mage/fighter/valkyrie could be..

mage/fighter/valkyrie/2nd tier mage class/ warwitch, war angel, or 3rd tier mage class

but it could not be a

mage/fighter/valkyrie/2nd tier mage class/(Lord, deathlord, or marauder)..

You could be..

mage/fighter/valkyrie/sorceror/wizard which wouldn't be half bad! Still adept would open more skills/spells than fighter... Fighter got kinda hosed in the new edition because the learning bonus of medium/light doesn't add anything because there is no such thing as learning bonus; there is just access to skills.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:41 am
by GawainBS
That still doesn't make a DUALWIELDING X/Mage/Valkyrie/Warangel possible.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:25 pm
by Claudius
Bladewitch can dual wield. A magic user can add blade witch as the 2nd tier sisterhood class. Maybe I have the name wrong.. Bladewitch is a third option of 2nd tier sisterhood classes. Or maybe I am wrong?

I don't think war angel is possible to go to from bladewitch, but I am not sure.