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Iron golums in Planer sphere

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:26 pm
by mallagant
I have a mage, paladin, fighter/cleric, fighter and thief in group nothing can do more than 1 point damage to the bastards why?

can someone give me a hint please

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:52 pm
by frogus
What quests have you done?
I'd say the one weapon that you really need is The Flail of Ages. You get it from the De'Arnise Stronghold quest, which isn't too hard if you're a low level and is perfect for golem crushing. Also good are the Staff of Rynn+4 (which you can get from the Adventurers Mart if you've got plenty of GP to spare and is the best Mage Staff you'll get for ages) the Cleric's Staff+3 which can be bought from somewhere (possibly the A.M. as well) or found in The Windspear Hills ogre-killing quest if you haven't done that yet, or you can hurt him with the magic darts you get from the final boss of the Umar Hills quest (not wanting to give away who he is if you haven't done it)

here's another tip for killing golems, which isn't really a spoiler but is VERY cheap and should only be used if you feel are willing to face up to the Karma Police for it afterwards...
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you can use the Ring of Earth Elemental Control to posess golems. If you are using this method, and it says 'Golem is resistant to magic, just try it again. The whole thing is a glitch in the game, so sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:39 pm
by unhappy player
golems

.. my thief traps are great for golem killing..
Got the big Golem i Nalias keep down to near death and finished him of with melfs minute meteors (lvl 3 mage spell)... However, I dont recall if it was indeed an iron golem ..

unhappy player

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:06 pm
by Silvanerian
If you're only able to deal 1 point of damage to an Iron Golem, then I think you're in for some serious trouble later on, as Iron Golems "only" have 20% physical resistance - meaning that if you do 10 damage to a regular foe, the Iron Golem only takes 8 damage.

Try a weapon that has at least a +3 enchantment, as they're immune to all below. I'm sure you'll be able to kill it then.

Oh, and it's only clay golems that need crushing weapons - no need to get out the flail of ages, as you can use your other +3 weapons also.

-Sylvanerian

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:15 pm
by samcu
+3, +4 and +5 weapon usually will do the trick, but usually people do this quest first and therefore having a tough time hurt these big guys.

Elemental damage spells like fireball will hurt them more than your average elemental damage weapon.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:30 pm
by fable
And even if you don't have a dwarf to throw at the golem, consider the staff of golem killing that's available from the drow city.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:44 pm
by Sojourner
Originally posted by fable
And even if you don't have a dwarf to throw at the golem, consider the staff of golem killing that's available from the drow city.
Oh, no, here we go again! :D :D

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:10 am
by samcu
What about the hammer that kills trolls, golems and ettins alike? (Probably not the brain golem, but that's not the point, is it?)

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:36 am
by Silvanerian
The problem is that you get these items very late in the game, so you won't be able to do the planer sphere until chapter 6, and at that time who cares? You'd probably want to get your soul back rather than travelling the planes.
Oh, and as it just so happens, you need an item from the planer sphere in order to constuct Crom Faeyr.

Golems are not all that tough, they deal out huge damage, yes, but they also have lousy AC and HP (the Iron Golem has 80 HP)
You just need to make sure that you got a weapon of +3 enchantment and one that does blunt damage of +1 enchantment for clay golems.

-Sylvanerian

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:43 am
by lompo
Best weapon for Iron/Adamantine Golems is Tasheron short bow:
everybody can use it, you take them from distance (when you find those golems there is always a narrow passage where they get stuck) and the great thing is that you don't need arrows (the bows creates his own +3 magica arrows).
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you can buy it Trademeet (not too expensive and you can get it fairly early because the quest here are not too difficoult).
Good luck

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:57 pm
by mallagant
thanks

well I tried a +3 sword with my fighter but she takes too much damage. Maybe I will try this quest later, I have done all the quests in chapter 2 this was my last one other than the unseeing eye I canot get into last room with mindflayers they confuse all my fighters so I get killed everytime...

but i will try againe thanks for all the help

:)

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 3:26 pm
by DaJir
cast the wizard strength spell on it. most of its thac0 comes from its freaky high str, so when you set its str to 18/00 instead of 24 or 25 it'll miss almost as freaquently as any other monster. After that just send a hitter in to kill it in relative safety.