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References to BG2 characters?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:09 am
by Moleman
In another thread I said Keldorn being mentioned in Ajantis' bio. Are there more references to BG2 characters in BG1? Has anyone noticed? Of course some NPC's are both in 1 & 2, and Saverok is in ToB but I mean references to new NPC's of BG2.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 1:45 am
by Stilgar
The woman in the spidercave (the fat one) talkes about Jon Iccarus
Dousn't that name ring a bell?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 1:55 am
by Moleman
Jon I... yeah, I've heard of him. Bad mutha, right?
Actually, I noticed that myself in my earlier games but didn't remember it anymore. Thanks.
Makes me wonder; whether ppl at Bioware had actually thought of BG2 plot already when they made BG1, or did they just take a neat name they had used in BG1 for the main villain in the sequel.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:21 am
by Stilgar
See the pantaloon story!!!!
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:57 am
by Moleman
I vaguely remembered reading something about pantaloons, so I searched from the forum, and man, this is great!! I'm on my way to friendly arm inn this moment to look for the 1st pantaloons.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:21 am
by Stilgar
At gamebanshee there is a description of all hints pointing out that there's something about the pantaloons!
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:29 am
by Moleman
Yep, i read about them.
The only problem now is that I'm trying to get throuhg the game with the smallest possible party, and my inventory is full already. Where should i put the pantaloons for the rest of the game?!?
Perhaps i take a npc to my party, gibe pantaloons to him/her and try to remember collect them in the end of the game....
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:30 am
by Stilgar
I put then in a chest in the Friendly arms in
(or just drop them, and edit them in in the end, you'll know you had them when you played)
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 8:26 am
by fable
Originally posted by Moleman
Makes me wonder; whether ppl at Bioware had actually thought of BG2 plot already when they made BG1, or did they just take a neat name they had used in BG1 for the main villain in the sequel.
I can't speak specifically for the Bioware folks, but I know that some developers (and many good writers) plan out all the history of their characters and areas in advance of doing a specific novel in a given setting. That's because it feels more real to the writers; and because when internal references carry over the edges of a novel or a game, there's a sense of continuity to a greater universe that makes the whole thing feel more "alive."
Hope that helps.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:33 am
by Eerhardt
I also heared that the sculptor in BG I, Prism, mentions Ellesime as his source of inspiration.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:56 pm
by Belecthor
Lord Foreshadow, just north of Nashkel, mentions Ribald(owner of the Adventurer's Mart)
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 1:21 pm
by Leonardo
Ellesime is not BG exclusive, she´s an AD&D character as famous as Elminster and Drizzt.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 1:32 pm
by Sojourner
Don't forget the references to IWD and Neverwinter.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2002 4:57 pm
by Youghford
I believe Faldorn the NPC is the shadow druid leader in the Trademeet quest...
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:02 am
by kopywrite
IIRC, 'Bohdi' is one of the incorrect passwords for getting into the thieves guild.
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