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Classes able to go through the game solo ?
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 2:24 pm
by Laenor
I've been wondering how many classes would be able to go through SoA and ToB.
W/o cheating (of course), i only Know Magicians (Sorcerer, Multi, Duals) that would be able to do it.
I played a Wild Mage through SoA/ToB, and managed to kill the boss.
I don't see a melee / thief / Healer doing it.
Atm i'm soloing a Monk, and GOD, it's much harder than with a Wild mage.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 2:55 pm
by Demis
I think you can solo with an Undead Hunter, i've tried it but then i bought ToB and left in unfinished. But it is possible.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 3:00 pm
by Laenor
How would a Solo Undead Hunter Kill Melissan ?
Going through SoA is quite easy, but ToB ain't *cheesy*, especially for Character without the powerfull tools of a mage.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 3:22 pm
by softaren
im soloing now with a halfelf fighter/mage/thief and it works great so far... though im just in chapter2 but actually most fights that were though when i used a 6char-party are now much easier. at least for me.
example fighting parties, just backstab, cast invisible spell, wait 6 seconds, backstab and so on until you've reduced them to a more fitting number. they usually wont even be able to touch you.
i can hear you
-softish
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 3:27 pm
by Laenor
I think any Multi/Dual that has access to Mage abilities can do it.
My question was:
Would a soloing character without Mage Spells be able to go through the game, and if yes what class would be needed ?
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 4:05 pm
by Cybot
A thief(assassin class) can do it. Backstab forever!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 4:14 pm
by Laenor
Since demons see through Invisibility, (at least in my Version of the game - French with last international patch - ) a Thief would die in a Heartbeat against Melissan.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 4:17 pm
by Stilgar
I finished off mellisan with a f/m/t, but without spells (just to give it a trie)
It's a mirracle what greater wirlwind can do.
Anf for a thief class, if you are a f/t you can place traps that makes some fight a lot easyer!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 5:42 pm
by leeman_s
Monks can
I'm soloing with a monk right now. I'm only in the Asylum so I'm not sure if he can make it to ToB. Right now there has been no enemy he can't kill. He's taken down Adamantite Golems, Dragons (Shade and Red), bosses, etc. He's pretty good with an armor class of -10, -12 with a certain sword (doth'zerkon blade or something), and quivering palm is awsome. Mages can't hurt him with a magic resistence of 88%. He can kill fighters because his fists are awsome, dealing out usually 20-30 damage. You should try it.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 5:58 pm
by Lykwid
I completed all of SoA and ToB with a ranger/cleric dualclass (dueled at 8). Melissan took about 30 tries, but that was by far the toughest battle.
-Lykwid
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:03 pm
by Laenor
Leeman s i'm soloing a Monk atm, he's level 26 and has -11 Ac, -7 thaco, 93%resists,hits for 10-30dmg and is still dieing a lot more than my wild mage did, due to too low Hps.
Gotta admit that getting High Level Abilities is helping.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:30 pm
by Cybot
Laenor: its remarkable what a single round of assassinate can do. I have taken down dragons to half their health with a single round of assassinate and melissan tasted a combo of assassination and traps. You assassinate her in the first battle. Lay out enough traps to take out her the seconds time...and a third time...and the fourth time as well. I think it was some 5 traps the first time, 6 or 7 the seconds and a final 9 traps the last time.
The best though is a Dual classed Berserker/Thief in my mind.
Some say Wizardslayer/thief but I say berserker/thief since the berserker rage will give you alot of important immunities as well as the berserkers quite respectable healthpoints.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:35 pm
by Laenor
Aya, i played an Evil Assassin (Party consisted of Khorgan, Viconia, Edwin, Sarevok and I , Half Elf Assassin (Chaotic Evil, then neutral Evil after Hell )
Gotta admit that Staff of Ram = Backstab 00ber weapon
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:42 pm
by leeman_s
yes
monks get VERY powerful in higher levels, im at level 21. I reached level 21 in chapter 2 lol. Without cheating. I also had 130,000 gold left to use before sailing away. It's amazing how different it is when you solo. But it is pretty fun imo.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:56 pm
by Laenor
Yep, you get really powerfull really fast when soloing
i'm doing watcher' keep solo atm, using alt+tab to read posts once in a while
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 7:06 pm
by Cybot
Laenor: Dual wielded katanas isn't bad either. Celelstial Fury and Hindo's Doom+4 give you a pretty neat combination.
Immunity towards death magic, 10% magical resistance as well as two VERY lethal weapons. Especially since the 12 extra damage isn't multiplied by backstabs.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 7:15 pm
by Laenor
Well.. it is !
Ever dreamed of 200 dmg non Crit Backstab ?
Try using Staff of the Ram (I had 24str too, helped a lot
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 7:31 pm
by Demis
Originally posted by Laenor
How would a Solo Undead Hunter Kill Melissan ?
Going through SoA is quite easy, but ToB ain't *cheesy*, especially for Character without the powerfull tools of a mage.
I was soloing SoA by the time i got ToB, when i got it i restored my original saves and continued with my full party.
Anyway i might give it try in ToB and see if i can pull it through with an Undead Hunter.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 7:43 pm
by Laenor
Good luck, there are a few Fights where i'm wondering how a Fighter can kill things alone (Sendai, 5th test in hell, Abazigal, Melissan)
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2002 8:08 pm
by Franke
Originally posted by Laenor
Good luck, there are a few Fights where i'm wondering how a Fighter can kill things alone (Sendai, 5th test in hell, Abazigal, Melissan)
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Fighters can summon stuff as well, many good summoning-items usable by all classes, like "Staff of Fire +2", with that staff the 5th test in hell is a pushover (The fire elemental is immune to sarevoks attacks). And if you have the bonus merchants and feel like cheese you can always use Vhailor's Helm and create a small army of elementals to fight at your side.
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