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New experimental superclass...major cheese class...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 3:37 am
by UserUnfriendly
Ok, so you guys all know of my experiements with the kensai sorceror, and quite frankly, I am pleased and flattered that people have asked me directly if a particular hacked class is possible, though people have got kit sites up, a few of us are not so mcuh interested in playing a char powerful beyond all recognition as seeing just how much uber hacking a cahr can be done. I do enjoy playing them, but more in the terms of a test subject for all sorts of new and interesting spell combos...

anyway, today got quite a shock, i remember doing experiments with soa and shadowkeeper and it not working, but now it does. I changed a experimental kensai priest mage into a sorceror, and got quite a shock...

I looked in teh priest spell table, no spells, so I figured, no priest spells, eh?

looked in the spells button, and there were my priest spells!!!I have all the priest spells I memorized before conversion, and only the number of spells I had memeorized, but I had them. so I cast holy word, I only had one memorized, then rested, and got the spell back!!! I can no longer select the priest spells screen to reset my pool, but hey, careful spell selection should provide for that, eh?


o later i plan to fiend test....(or did I mean field test? could be either since I plan to hit watchers with new char, and its full of fiends...)

kensi cleric sorc!!!

also I plan to try out new darth vader voice patch I downloaded. as soon as I find a really cool new portrait, Morrolan, the kensai, cleric sorceror will stride down faerun like a juggernault....

you lose turn undead, but a few sunrays should do the job, chain contingency no longer sees priest spells, so i plan to load up on buffer spells before I convert over, after doing unseeing eye to get stronghold...

did I mention I plan to add a few of my fav juicy druid spells?

bwahahahahahaha!!!!

finally a obscene conglomeration that just goes too far....

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 4:03 am
by Phantom Lord
[Sigh!] There is indeed one hacked class I'd be interested in but I can't figure out how to do it. The class in question would be a F/T/C (T w/assassin kit) and is not suported by the AD&D core rules, therefore it's not available via SK, because it's not implemented in the game.

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 4:54 am
by UserUnfriendly
increase the thaco of a assassin cleric, and add the high level abilites, like about 10 greater whirlwinds you want using sk. you might have to tinker with attacks per round, and add the weapons prof, but you can come damned close if you take a assassin cleric, actually thief cleric with assassin kit added.

the idea is to break down the fighter class to what makes it diff from a spell caster class, and its the quest abilites, thaco and attacks per round. all of which can be added via sk...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 12:06 pm
by Littiz
Kensai/Sorc with UAI, antimagic beholder ray, cleric AND druid
spells?!?!?!?!? :eek:

This is really too much....
I surrender, User!
:D

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:19 pm
by UserUnfriendly
just figured out how to create

kensai sorc with cleric and druid spells, and spike, time and explosive traps...

if i really felt like a total cheater, which I do, I can add

death bringer assault
12x backstab....eeek!! with mislead and greater whirlwind....and critical strike and righteous magic, and HOLY AVENGER.....
balthazar abilities....
poison wweapon....

the ONLY disadvantage this char has is inability to redefine priest spells table, and complete inability to have any fun in the game....

what I really want to do until morrowwind comes and you guys wont see me anymore but if you come to a morrowind forum I will be there, is to play a kensai sorc with death bringer and possibly a few cleric and druid spells...buffers and enhancers, and a few kill, kill, kill ****ycat! spells.

I really am looking foward to new effect I plan out, with ring of free action a chain of malison and symbol stun cast on myself...the stunfire spell!!!

with deathward, and symbol death, die umber hulks, die!!!

symbol death is a certain spell you have to be aware of...it kills summons, and is quite indiscriminate, so if you get, dump death spell, no longer needed...and I think you can dump death fog for getting rid of your summons, too...

designed for kensai mages and sorcs, you use boots of speed to run into battle, whack away while spell trips and stuns many opponents...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:14 pm
by UserUnfriendly
so would you guys be interested in a field test of this super class? I am really exploring the limits of kit hacking here...

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:28 pm
by Obsidian
You are sick! Just SICK!!!

I still think the Sorc Monk would be the way to go!

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:31 pm
by Obsidian
I'm too lazy to edit, so I'll just make a new post.

I must admit, I've done something very cheezy and am ashamed.
I'm soloing the Chanter class through TDD, its a bard, who can use all axes and swords with 2 profs, and the song gives 10% resistance to piercing, blud, slashing etc attacks, and regenerates 1 hp per round.
To my surprise, I found all these abilities STACK from round to round. Before a big battle, I just turn on the song, leave to get something, come back a few minutes later to a bard that regenerates 15 hp a round and has 150% resistance to all kinds of damage!!!
Thats cheap, but DAMN is TDD tricky for a low level bard....

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2002 12:20 am
by UserUnfriendly
obsidean, this class IS a MONK SORC!!!

grab holy avenger. this sets magic resist to 50%, then whenever you load the game equipp unequip the robe of vecna, amulet of power ring of gax, and then take off ring of free actiona and unequipp and equipp boots of speed, put ring back on.

(this class, you actually have to sometimes trade mage enhancers for immunity items. you really dont need more spells...)

with lums machine and hell rewards, magic resist is at 90%!!!!

with ring of free action adn boots of speed you have the mobility of the monk, and with ring of gaxx the nice psoison immunity.

as for quivering palm and stunning blow, dragons breath anyone?




Guys, the sorc cleric fighter assassin does NOT pan out. once you convert to sorc your priest spells are no longer seen by chain contingency, and thus lost most of the appeal for me. sure you can buff up a kensai sorc with good spell selection, but really, most of them can be cast by aerie or jahiera, and the few spells I really covet are ones that you really can either get or something close to it via mage spells, or really shine when cast in a contingency, like aerie can. so this experiment is a sorta flop.

I really wanted....

righteous magic...str bonus and full damage is nice....can be duplicated by being evil!!! whack savvy enrages, and with lum bonuses, you have +3!!

area of damage spells, like blade barrior, can be duplicated by chain contingency spells set to cast on self, like sunfires and remove magics...

natures beauty and holy smite spells---damge plus blindess..i already have blindness, and p word blind.

elemtnal princes in summons....planetars are better in every way...

oh well, for fun am creating 7 spells per level sorc assassin kensai...

have a bigger magic arsenal than normal, plan to kill with more spells, spike and time and explosive traps, and some good fighter high level abilites....