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Any good cheese for eclipse??? Sola mod, spoilers

Posted: Fri May 17, 2002 8:42 pm
by UserUnfriendly
somehow nerfed sola sequence, i force talked him with entire party after killing bodhi, and got upgraded moonblade, and never got eclipse happen right, so today spawned the eclipse scene, and tehy took heads and kicked my butt...

just tried my fav tactic for really bad battles, gave each party member prot from elements and energy, raising fire resist to 127, and 5 mages cast inc cloud triples set to see enemy...

wes is fiendishly smart, he knew the microwave of doom trick. and one of the eclipse mages cast zone of sweet air as first spell...

NUTZ!!!

any cheesy ways to bash the eclipse party???

have already tried my fav....triple popout swords, naturally triple abu...i think most of them are wearing prot from magic energy...

and they move so fast and bash so hard, one of my fav, using project image to summon 5 planetars dont work....tashia got whomped before managing to cast 1...thogu i admit the swords helped to drop some of them, thinking if possible, limited wish horde of bunnies, if it can be chained or triggered might actually work, it does not count as summon, but those buggers are so fast, the first triggered spell volley will decide the battle...

even bun bun gets whomped...

nasty...

possibly only final battle of ascention is worse...

but no prep, no tiem to buff up once in kill zone, and cannot precast summons makes my fav techs for bashing useless...

say, i wonder if they are vulnerable to g deathblow...nah....

Posted: Fri May 17, 2002 9:39 pm
by genxooseven
Alright where/when exactly do these guys appear? After Bodhi's Lair in ch.6? If so I'll prolly help you out in firguring some cheesy methods soon cause I'm at Bodhi right now and wanna check out how fast these guys can deal out death. Oh yea you try setting spike traps? I took out Twisted Rune Imp. with ease with a couple spike traps.

Posted: Sat May 18, 2002 12:39 am
by UserUnfriendly
they are part of the sola plot after you take out sendai or puple dragon in tob.....

no, spike traps will not work, since youre warped into the arena.....wes has created what he hopes is an uncheesable encounter, and so far he has defeated me, one of the more well known members of the cheese guild...

originator of the painless twisted rune, unimproved, and g deathblow and frag grenade, and teh str spell cheeses for golems and ravager....

i thought i knew all the tricks, and so far its bun bun, my kensai sorcorcer 0 to 3...grrr.........

just use clua console

CreateCreature("solaspy1")

and be prepared for a major ass whomping.....


hmmm.....the only way i can think of is to use a much tougher party,


high level assassin fighter mage as pc,

keldy, sola
jahiera

and keep the group tight and very nasty,

tashia ans aerie and immie are just too ***ile....


grr......

Posted: Sat May 18, 2002 11:24 am
by Rattman
i would suggest Ctrl y but that defets the purpose and clallange

try makeing a team that is over powered like all of them with the cloak of mirroring or what ever it is and rig of gaxx/ram and other cool stuff

also you could cheat even more by creating the pit fiend (culaing him) right on the party (lots of them)

is you want to try non cheeting tactics may i suggest the summons fodder (unless they are resistant to that)

they really seem like tough bastards (i only downloaded sola a few days ago)

if thay really annoy you shawdow keeper you team in gods stats of 100 in each bit and whoop ass BWAAHAAHAA

have fun and report any cheese holes you find

Posted: Sat May 18, 2002 11:52 am
by Alson
how about Chaining three Bun Buns (hehe...) Simmies?
I'm sure four bun buns can do some carnage...
Protected from Divination, of course... :rolleyes:

Posted: Sat May 18, 2002 11:59 am
by Littiz
0-3?!?!? Where Cheese fails...

User, at last!!
If the Master of Cheese fails...really though battles I fear!
Anyway, the Sola mod comes with a readme including a FAQ
section, and a detailed readme about the Eclipse battle.
Not read yet through them, I wanna try myself first
(and having three different parties running it will take
a while.. :rolleyes: ), but maybe you can find some hints
there.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:29 am
by UserUnfriendly
bo cntrl -y or increasing magic resist and armor to obscene levels...the fight should be do able with a regular party, and while i admit to cntrl y ing them once, it was to check out loot...not so hot, but decent.

pit fiends might work, so might multiple simmies, but man, the fight is really really hard...

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 2:12 am
by Mr Flibble
I haven't seen this fight (yet), but my favourite tactic for really hard fights involves a single high level sorcerer:

Chain contingency with 3 PI set to activate when helpless
Cast PI
If you've got the time have all images cast simmie
All images cast as many Summon Planetars as they can.

In one fight I ended up with nearly 40 planetars!

Demogorgon lasted a couple of rounds, the fight at the last seal to monkeyboy lasted nearly a minute.
Firkragg lasted long enough to blink... :D