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mage to open Bhodi's lair-first encounter

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 1:58 pm
by Newt
I went to do this part and the mage and golem where there to open the door.

However, I found I needed more people with magic to do this area and went to change my party. Upon coming back with Edwin and Anomen the mage is not there?????

What is up??

This also happened when I went to get Jaheira......the Harper's do nithing, whereas when I went earlier (after she told me to meet her there) i was attacked and could not win.

Have I merely waited too long???

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 2:47 pm
by Sojourner
As long as the mage's golem opened the doors for you, there is no problem. The mage doesn't hang around. ;)

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 2:53 pm
by Newt
the mage is not there to open the door

I cannot get in !!!!!

I can not continue the game if I can not get in here!!!

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 3:58 pm
by fable
The mage and golem already showed up?

If they did, did they ask you anything?

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 4:21 pm
by Newt
clarification

I went to do this quest and the mage/golem were there and opened the doors. Upon entering I found I could not defeat the vampires without more spell power so I left from the last auto save (entering the crypts) to go pick up Edwin and Anomen.

Going back in as though I had never been there with my newly formed party I find no one to open the door for me

Does that make more sense??? Is this a game bug that the NCP does not appear when he should or have I done something (wait too long although I doubt this as this is a major event/quest or is it due to the presence of a certain character???)

Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 11:26 pm
by Sojourner
Do you have any mods installed?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 4:36 am
by Rattman
try talking to the thiefters again

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 5:53 am
by Stilgar
I lknow this part of the game is very bugged, have you tried reload a couple of times?
And I assume you have all the patches? if not get them here if you only have SoA and here if you have ToB

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 7:21 am
by fable
@Newt, I'm unclear about something. Are you saying you reloaded back to the point before you approached Bodhi, played for a good while, and tried again? Or are you saying that you simply left, came back later, and found the doors relocked?

And if you reply "Yes," I shall send a very large man named Guido to visit you at 3 AM. :) ;)

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 7:39 am
by Sabre
fable: From what I can see this is what happened:

1. Play the game normally
2. Get quest to fight Bodhi
3. Went to Graveyard
4. Went down to crypt - game autosave
5. Got mage to open door
6. Went through door
7. Found fights too hard, reload from 4.

4a. Went out of Graveyard
4b. Got some other people
4c. Went back to Graveyard
4d. Went down to crypt
# Problem, mage not there to open door.

As far as I can tell, this is a script problem, since I don't think there's a time limit on the mage appearing. A possibility is that the variable that triggers the mage was created before the autosave - but the mage have not yet appear. Therefore when you reload the game, the variable is already set - game thinks mage is already there, but he's not.

If you have CLUAConsole on, type the following: CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("FindLassal","AR0801",0) and press ENTER - while you're down in the crypt. The mage should appear after a while.

Turn CLUA on by opening the file called baldur.ini in the folder where you installed BG2. Add in the line Debug Mode=1 under [Program Options]. Save it and load your game, press CTRL + SPACE and type in the code above.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 12:59 pm
by Newt
Thankyou!!!!!!!

Thank you sooooooooo much for your help Sabre!!!

It worked Lassal is there with his Golem!!!

IS there a fix like this for the Jaheira?Harper quest????? When I go in there no one talks to me or attacks me like they did when I tried this task right after Jaheira requested me to go there.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 1:13 pm
by Sojourner
Re: Thankyou!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Newt
Thank you sooooooooo much for your help Sabre!!!

It worked Lassal is there with his Golem!!!

IS there a fix like this for the Jaheira?Harper quest????? When I go in there no one talks to me or attacks me like they did when I tried this task right after Jaheira requested me to go there.
Yes, but more info is needed. Did Galvarey and co. appear at all inside the Harper Hold?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 1:40 pm
by Newt
yes

the characters are there but will not talk to me.l

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 10:27 pm
by Sojourner
When you entered the Harper Hold with Jaheira, after she asked you to go with her there, were both of you visible? (Required for dialog) Do you have ToB installed?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 7:46 am
by Newt
No Jaheira

Jaheira is not there..........I do not believe anyhow.

and I do not have ToB installed......have been on the look out for it tho (I would like it)

Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 7:49 am
by Sabre
Is she in your party? You need Jaheira in the party for them to talk to you - since this is part of her quest. If not find her and get her to join again, and then go back to the Harper hold, Galvarey should starts a dialogue with Jaheira.