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Anyway to raise a disposition of 0?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 2:18 pm
by warto
In screwing around with speech-craft, I have effectively reduced the disposition of most of the shopkeeps/trainers in Sarda Neen to 0. Now they want nothing to do with me and I keep getting refused service. Is there anything I can do to get back on their good sides without using persuation, which I obviously suck at.?!

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 3:08 pm
by THE JAKER
uh-oh. Once someone gets down to zero it can be VERY tough to get them back up into normal land. I find a bribe will often get things going again though. Try bribing 10 gold. You should probably practice speechcraft on unimportant townies like the people upstairs at the tradehouse in Seyda Neen, not the shopkeeps you have to do business with.

Even with a reasonably high speechcraft I'm often scared to try on shopkeeps - failure has such a high price. I usually will just walk in and flatter them once. If it works, great. It not, I stop there.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 3:14 pm
by Sirius_Sam
If it's a merchant, and you can still barter, you can raise their reactions by not haggling too much when you sell to them. Someone posted recently that they sold arrows, one at a time, and did not haggle at all...this raised the merchant's disposition by one for each arrow.

1) Say "Hello"
2) Sell item
3) Don't negotiate on price...just sell
4) Say "Goodbye"

-Rinse & Repeat-

It is possible to raise the disposition of an NPC with Persuasion. Bribes seem to be much more effective than Admiration or Intimidation, IMO :) .

S_S

Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 3:46 pm
by warto
Thanks fellas, I will try your suggestions.
I'm not too worried about Arille's dislike for me as I'm sure that there are better merchants out there but that guy in the Excise office will train Sneak and he just hates me!
Hehehehe, live and learn I guess.

Posted: Thu May 23, 2002 1:59 am
by Loredweller
Originally posted by warto
Thanks fellas, I will try your suggestions.
I'm not too worried about Arille's dislike for me as I'm sure that there are better merchants out there but that guy in the Excise office will train Sneak and he just hates me!
Hehehehe, live and learn I guess.

Arille has one of the best selections of scrolls at the begining anyway, so i'd be careful with neglecting the business with him if i were you :D
BTW, bribing raises speachcraft as well :cool: and there's no reason of admiring with low speachcraft anyway - of course, if your purpose isn't to make anybody hate you :D And, if you do not have much of money, try saving before bribing. The success, altough influenced by your personality and speachcraft, is random. Also keep training on lower classes - commoners and paupers, they most probably would be content with 10g. In big towns people is more gready, too.