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Oh dear Help with the Blades (Possible Spoilers)

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 10:12 am
by Forty Two
Um don`t know how, but i`ve been kicked out of the blades, i get a message in square brackets when i speak to the Caius blokey saying [This path to your destiny is closed].

When i speak to ther members of the blades the say i can`t get training untill i make amends.. Other guilds say i have to speak to the guildmaster to make amends if this sorta thing happens.

Anyone know what to do? Any help would be most appreciated :)

Got a horrible feeling Caius is the Guildmaster..

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 10:28 am
by Loredweller
Just guessing again,

but i do not believe he's the guildmaster. Do you remember some things in his room? Or didn't Hlaalu officials have very interesting remarks about him?
If this game is following the usual way the advice to make amends might mean there is a choice.
BTW, had you a talk with Empire official who sent you to Balmora?
Not sure, of course... :D
BTW, just curious, how did you manage to get kicked out of Blades?

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 11:10 am
by Forty Two
I don`t actually know what i did..

But i found this on Bethsofts forums If i type in "player-> PCclearExpelled Blades" ths will clear my name as it where.

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 12:10 pm
by Loredweller
Originally posted by Forty Two


...type in "player-> PCclearExpelled Blades" ths will clear my name as it where.

Now, isn't it just a fun :D

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 3:03 pm
by Forty Two
Originally posted by Loredweller

Now, isn't it just a fun :D
?

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 7:33 pm
by Chucky
Interesting

Can you tell me where you got that code from, I killed a guy way early in the game that I now need alive to complete a quest, no one responded to the post I made. If they have a code like that, maybe they will have one that will ressurect someone ?

Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:08 pm
by cjdevito
To restore a dead or inexplicably missing NPC, call up the console and type:

placeatpc "sharn gra-muzgob",1,1,1

Put the full name of the appropriate NPC in the quotes. This will spawn the NPC right at the PC, so it'd make sense to do it whereever the NPC is supposed to be. Of course, if you have the telvanni level 3 stronghold complete with dungeon, this is also a great way to stock it with annoying prisoners like Crassius Curio :)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 2:47 am
by Loredweller
Got somewhere that the full command listing might be found in editor. Never cared to check still, though.

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 9:28 am
by cjdevito
In the console, type 'Help', it will list everything (though without details).

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 9:44 am
by Bitex
There's also a full console commands list with some explanations on the official morrowind site forum. Just do a search for it.

In fear of ruining the game (maybe) for lots of people (I find that once you get hold of cheats or walkthroughs it's nearly impossible to not enter them in at some point when you get frustrated enough), I won't post the link.

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 9:53 am
by cjdevito
Speaking for myself, I use the cheats for one thing: cash :)

If I find something worth 60000 and can't find anyone to sell it to, I'll go to a merchant, try to sell it just to see the price they -would- pay if they actually had more then 400 gold. Then I'll sell them the item for whatever amount of gold they do have, then use the console to put the remaining amount I -should- have earned in my inventory.

I feel very justified in doing this, as I can't believe there aren't any rich shopkeepers in Morrowind. That was a -horrible- design decision that definitely takes fun out of my game, so I don't think twice about using the console to put the fun back in :)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 11:35 am
by Cyris Drake
I disagree

How many vendors do you know that carry 40K in cash? How many times have you seen signs next to the cash register that say "Clerk carries less than $50" or "No $50 or $100 bills allowed"

I think vendors with little cash adds an intriguing element to the game...

...BARTERING

You know, like what people used to do all the time.

Use that great item to barter for something else you want. Or barter with 1st vendor for something the 2nd vendor wants if the 2nd vendor has an item you want.

It's not for powergamers, granted.

My 2cents.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled posting.

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 11:43 am
by Forty Two
Have you even played this game?

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 12:14 pm
by cjdevito
It's not for powergamers, granted.

Or economists. Sorry, but trading a 20000 gold pair of daedric greaves for 1200 and another 3000 in steel armor, that I'll -still- have a hard time unloading for cash, doesn't do it for me.

How many clerks do I know who have 20000 bucks in their pocket? None. But I know plenty of high-end antigue stores, art galleries and jewelers that do. And of course, they can always write a check. Not likely to happen in Morrowind, of course -- no banks. Which means they almost certainly have their life savings someplace around their house/shop or person.

I don't expect every vendor to be rolling in the cash, but I expect there to be at least a -few-. And there aren't.

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 12:16 pm
by cjdevito
I should add that the lack of vendor cash and the inability to barter for training/enchanting is -obviously- bethesda's heavy-handed method for adjusting how easy it was to hit high levels in daggerfall through training (funded by loot runs). Heavy handed it is, but also artificial and -- for me -- a great way to take fun out of the game by making gathering loot barely worth my time.

Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 1:15 pm
by Forty Two
Found out how i got kicked outa the blades.

I used a house MOD, it creates a house with a guard outside it, the version i had was bugged so i couldn`t get a key. TO pick the lock i killed the guard but the guard is set as being a Blade..

Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 6:20 am
by Chucky
Thank you

Thanks for that resurrect command dude, I finished the game as far as I am concerned. Neverrine, Guildmaster, and Redoran Archmaster with my own stronghold, excellant game, I wish though that they would have named my stronghold after me, it would have been quite satisfying and very easy to do for the programmers.

Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 10:59 am
by flash95
the cash thing would not be so anoining if I could barter for encahntments. say trade in a 150,000 item I cant use and enchant one I can no actual gold changes hands!

now that would be cool!