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Question?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 3:04 pm
by Timbo
Should i install TotSC before i complete it or should i beat Sarevok first then install it?
Also is it better to continue characters into BG2 or start anew?
Your views?

Posted: Wed May 29, 2002 3:59 pm
by Locke Da'averan
actually sarevok IS the end boss of BG1&ToSC so, you can't beat him before going to tosc areas... so i suggest you install tosc and before going after sarevok for the last time, or before that go through tosc, my advice is that you save durlags tower to the last and have a thief that has atleast 80% in disarm traps...

importing a character from bg1&tosc to bg2 is very handy, i have a game in bg2 atm where i imported a ranger from bg1, i dualed him to a cleric, stats:
str:19
dex:19
con:19
int:9
wis:21
chr:13

so importing a char gives you additional stats, and it gives the feeling of continuity throughout the series, gotta get meself tob soon or i'll go loco... ;)

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 2:03 am
by Astafas
Actually, you could beat Sarevok twice if you want to. Fight him once without having TotSC installed (i e you go through BG the "normal" way). Then install the add-on and start it - it'll then use your Final Save (an automatic save just prior to you fighting Sarevok) and teleport you to Ulgoth's Beard. Play through the entire add-on (which has a boss of its own, as well) and then go back to kill Sarevok a second time. Beware that he will be tougher this time, though! After you beat Sarevok the game is over even if you haven't explored all areas yet, so make sure to save him for last. Have a nice time and good luck! :)

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 2:41 am
by Astafas
Oh, forgot about your second question...

It doesn't really matter if you create a new one or if you import your BG1 character. Some classes in BG2 (Monk, Barbarian and Sorceror) aren't available in BG1, so if you want to play one of these you'll have to create a new one.

If you import your BG1 character, you'll have the possibility to choose a kit. You'll also have to redistrubute all your profiencies, since they aren't the same in BG2. No equipement will stay on your PC unless you cheat it in.

No NPC will be able to follow you into BG2. This came as a shock to me since Bioware had stated that "it's possible to import your BG1 characters" and not clarified that this didn't inlcude NPCs. Must have had at least ten different parties waiting to get their cool kits and head out for fame and fortune in Amn...

BG1 has several tomes that enhance your stats - one for each stat, except for Wisdom, for which you can find three(!), TotSC taken into account. These can either be used by your PC or by one of the NPCs. This way, you can enhance the stats of your PC considerably (even risking unbalancing the game - that's why no tomes were included in BG2). For example, if you create a non Fighter PC and give him a Strenght of 18, one of the tomes can increase this stat to 19, giving him a bonus of +3 to hit and +7 to damage (IIRC)! Thus, importing a PC from BG1 allows for extraordinary stats without cheating. My current Halv-Elven Bard will for example get both a Dexterity and a Charisma of 19.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:10 am
by Yshania
Originally posted by Locke Da'averan

importing a character from bg1&tosc to bg2 is very handy, i have a game in bg2 atm where i imported a ranger from bg1, i dualed him to a cleric, stats:
str:19
dex:19
con:19
int:9
wis:21
chr:13

so importing a char gives you additional stats, and it gives the feeling of continuity throughout the series, gotta get meself tob soon or i'll go loco... ;)
I agree :) My first Avenger druid started SoA at level 7 IIRC, and did not have the benefit of the tomes in BG1. The Avenger I am playing now I imported from BG1 with the following stats

str:19
dex:15
con:19
int:11
wis:19
chr:17 (*sigh* the worst thing about the druid is the need for high base chr :rolleyes: )

This Avenger also started SoA at level 10. She is now level 12 and I have only completed the circus, the druid grove and most of Trademeet. She dual wields and has 3 attacks per round (compared to the 2 attacks p/r my first druid had), and already has access to 2 level 6 spells (my first druid was level 15ish before she got these spells). The stat boost of imported characters is the best reason for bringing them in ;)

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:16 am
by Astafas
About importing and the XPs:

The XP cap in BG1 is 89 000. This is also the amount of XPs you start with in BG2. However, if you install TotSC the XP cap of BG1 goes up to 161 000. Should you import a PC from BG1 to BG2 after this, he will therefor start out at this amount.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:21 am
by Astafas
Importing a Druid and choosing the Avenger kit is most advantagous (cheese, Ysh dear? :p ) as the Avenger would normally recieve a - 2 to Strenght and Constitution upon creation in BG2. When importing from BG1 though, the stats aren't altered.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:23 am
by Yshania
Originally posted by Astafas

Importing a Druid and choosing the Avenger kit is most advantagous (cheese, Ysh dear? :p ) as the Avenger would normally recieve a - 2 to Strenght and Constitution upon creation in BG2. When importing from BG1 though, the stats aren't altered.
Cheese? lol! :D Actually I honestly did not think of that - I was more interested in the Wisdom tomes, since the requisite high base charisma has you having to compensate in some important areas ;)

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 7:44 am
by Astafas
Originally posted by Yshania

Actually I honestly did not think of that
Sure, Ycheesia... :rolleyes: ;)

Posted: Thu May 30, 2002 1:44 pm
by Yshania
Originally posted by Astafas


Sure, Ycheesia... :rolleyes: ;)
LMAO! :D Oh ye of little faith ;) Do you know what? I did not even know that the Avenger had compromised stats :rolleyes: until I had almost completed ToB. A friend told me, but by then I was already hooked on the class :)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2002 1:40 am
by Astafas
Originally posted by Yshania


LMAO! :D Oh ye of little faith ;) Do you know what? I did not even know that the Avenger had compromised stats :rolleyes: until I had almost completed ToB. A friend told me, but by then I was already hooked on the class :)
It's not really a drawback IMO. As you stated yourself, the high Charisma requirement calls for some compromises as to the other stats. And there is no real point in a Constitution over 16 anyway.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:38 am
by Locke Da'averan
the only reason why i didn't make a fighter dualed to a druid was the irritating charisma requirement of 15 :mad: having him dual wielding would've made him pretty good with wis of 21... too bad it's not easy to create a char with a str/con/wis of 18 and chr 15

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:11 am
by Nae'run
importing a character from bg1&tosc to bg2 is very handy, i have a game in bg2 atm where i imported a ranger from bg1, i dualed him to a cleric, stats:
str:19
dex:19
con:19
int:9
wis:21
chr:13

You can't duel a ranger without cheesing..........
So you will need gate/shadowkeeper, i just tested for myself. And looked through the manuals of BG1 and BG2...... but you can't, though it would be very nice, cause a cleric with the HP bonus of a kitless ranger, and the acces to druid-spells.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 7:32 am
by Astafas
Originally posted by Nae'run



You can't duel a ranger without cheesing..........
So you will need gate/shadowkeeper, i just tested for myself. And looked through the manuals of BG1 and BG2...... but you can't, though it would be very nice, cause a cleric with the HP bonus of a kitless ranger, and the acces to druid-spells.
What on earth are you talking about? The Ranger/Cleric is one of the most popular combos, both as dual and as multi, and completely legimite. You probably didn't meet the prerequisites when you tried, not having high enough stats.