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Help: Mage's Guild Problem

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 9:23 am
by Reckless
Before completing Edwinna's quests, I went to Vivec and talked to Trebonious. Thinking his Disappearance of the Dwarves quest was ridiculous, I clicked on the "Archmage" button. He challenged me to a duel and I offed him in the Arena. I now have his staff and everything. I've since completed Edwinna's quests.

The problem is that nobody will acknowledge me as the Archmage. When I ask to be advanced, everyone says that only Trebonious can advance me. I've gone to both Edwinna and Skink with Trebonious' staff, but have had no luck.

Thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 10:29 am
by cjdevito
In-game, you're screwed :/ There are three ways to be granted archmage rank, but all three require trebonius' participation.

You can fix it with the console in two different ways. Either respawn trebonius (sorry, I don't have the command handy), or use:

PC->raiserank "mage" (not sure about mage, it may be mages or some other variant).

...which will make you archmage.

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 1:41 pm
by Azkor
CJ the command is resurrect "trebonius" while in the mage guild. You can also use placeatpc trebonius 1,1,1.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 10:38 am
by Reckless
I can't get any of these console commands to work at all.

Can someone tell me precisely what I'm supposed to type to respawn trebonious? When I use the placeatpc command, I get an error message saying it can't find item "trebonious." I've also tried "resurrect trebonious" and player->resurrect trebonious. I've also used "arch-mage," "trebonious_artorious," "trebonious artorious," etc, but he doesn't reappear. I've also tried the "raiserank" command in multiple variations, but nothing happens.

This is a really dumb bug. If he's dead, people shouldn't be telling me that only he can advance me.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 11:22 am
by Odonatathrope
If I remember correctly (I killed him!), it's TreboniUS ArtoriUS (no O!). Try placeatpc "trebonius artorius"1,1,1

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 11:22 am
by Azkor
Sorry Reckless I wasnt thinking you would just try trebonius. If you want a detailed view of how to do this please go here:
http://home.austin.rr.com/shakti/morrowind/mwguide.htm
Edit: Doh did have links enabled.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 11:38 am
by Sirius_Sam
Odonatathrope's correct...next time, look in the editor for the NPC's actual name.

S_S

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 2:17 pm
by Reckless
Actually, I did go back and use the correct mane when I tried the edit. (I pulled it from my journal.) I just had the "ous" in my head. The real problem turned out that I didn't have the corrext syntax. Several of the websites I've seen have confusing instructions as to how to use the "placeatpc" command. But Odonatathrope's command worked and I managed to restore him.

Unfortunately, that doesn't solve my problem. Either he immediately tries to kill me or, if I use the "stopcombat" command and setfight at 10, he just tells me to meet him in the arena. But when I go there, he doesn't show up. I suspect I need to reset his dialogue, but I don't know how. I think I just need to give up. <sigh>

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 2:21 pm
by frudi
i had the same problem - challenged him when i was just a wizzard and couldn't become an arch-mage later. i also tried the placeatpc command and it spawned him ok, but he was pissed of and attacked me immediately. if i used chameleon or invisibility to try and talk to him, he just said 'meet me in the arena' or something like that and the only possible response was 'goodbye'. so i just gave up on becoming arch-mage and went on to finish the main plot...

i did notice today on some mod site that someone made a plugin that's supposed to fix the problem. i think it was on rpgplanet...

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 9:01 am
by Odonatathrope
I saw somewhere on another site the console commands for lowering an NPCs fight reaction, precisely for this problem. I think it was a three-command series that allowed you to respawn a character you'd killed and set them back near default. The instructions were either at bullhonkie's site (bullhonkie.com) or at Shakti's (don't remember URL, but you can link from bullhonkie). One of the FAQs/walkthroughs has the commands.