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Here's the dealio folks,

Firstly I must apologize for the length, but there are a few questions/topics covered in here, and I would rather make 1 long post than 2-3 semi-short ones. Bare with me.

I know many of you dislike Anomen, and I'm not such an advocate myself but while I do have him in my party I would like to complete his quests to the fullest, so.. here's my problem.

So far I have only seen 2 possible options for solving the Saerk Quest.. They are:

A: Kill Saerk and never gain knighthood
B: Forget the justice/revenge all together and get knighthood later

Now, my question is: Is there any other option?

When you go to the Council of Six and speak to the magistrate (sp?) She says that there is "insufficient evidence" to link Saerk to the crime. Isn't there a way to find the evidence and show it to the magistrate? I seem to recall this happening in a previous game I played but I don't recall how I got it to happen or where, or if I am even remembering the right thing or not.


Another question concerning Anomen:

I lost the dimwits family shield. When I was going through the slaver quest he got whacked pretty hard by a thief I believe (backstab), died, I had to revive him, in doing so his equipment was left on the ground. I grabbed the armor I had him equipped with (possibly off another character?) but somehow forgot to grab his shield, mace, helmet, etc. The mace and helmet were no big deal since they weren't anything special anyway, and even though the shield isn't amazingly powerful or anything it is fairly nice to have. Is there any other place that this item spawns or is it gone for good? Any way outside of editing the game that I could get it back?


Also, I am considering switching my party around some, currently my characters are:

Me - NG Ranger
Aerie - Cleric/Mage
Anomen - Fighter/Cleric
Jaheira - Fighter/Druid
Minsc - Ranger Berserker
Yoshimo - Thief/BountyHunter


Minsc (trade for keldorn?)- I like Minsc in that he is funny and he's a pretty decent tank, plus he has the capability of using a composite long bow (which i take advantage of), but I never use his special abilities at all. I was thinking of switching him out for Keldorn as soon as I can. Good trade or am I missing something?

Aerie (keep?)- Even though she's annoying I like her because other than Edwin/Nalia she's the only mage available. Even though she's not nearly as powerful as Edwin, I would rather avoid an evil character. Nalia is very annoying to me and I would much rather use Imoen or Yoshimo as a thief. Imoen I simply can't get until later, plus I don't like her personality wise much more than Aerie, if at all. Plus, if I desire I can romance Aerie, so that's a plus. And, she's a duel-classed cleric which makes her a bit more useful.

Yoshimo (keep until Imoen?) - I dunno why but I like Yoshimo. He's a good thief in my opinion and his personality is decent. Nothing annoying about him. The only problem is he eventually betrays and leaves you, at which time you can get Imoen anyway so you end up with a thief.

Jaheira (keep?)- I hear people singing praise left and right over Jaheira but to me she only seems moderately useful. I never use her shapeshifting ability (maybe my own fault) and there are better clerics in the game. I do however like the fact that she's not TOO much of a wuss to wear decent armor or get into battle and smack somebody around if needbe. The only thing I am really keeping her for is the extra spot .. I like a full party. Plus, I would like to romance her over any other of the possibilities.

Anomen - Here is my real delimma, and the reason I am writing this all out. Anomen is a fighter/Cleric, (duh), firstly he serves the purpose of being a good tank. You can equip him with the mace of the ages and he can deal hella good damage, he wears any heavy armor/shield/helmet you put on him, plus he has the ability to become a fairly good cleric. Also, he's of neutral alignment so he will agree with most of my neutral good decisions. Some of his cons are that he is, as so many say, rather annoying. Plus he has some crappy circumstances that accompany him and he doesn't play well with others. All and all I just wanna know if theres a better cleric I can get/use in the game? Like.. Viconia perhaps? But isn't she evil? Aside from that.. Do I REALLY need another cleric with my ranger, Jaheira, and Aerie?


Summary:


Me - Ranger (tank + minor cleric abilities)
Keldorn - Paladin (tank)
Aerie - Cleric/Mage
Yoshimo or Imoen - Thief (thief/mage)
Jaheira (Or a suitable replacement?) - Druid (cleric abilities)

Should I keep Anomen? Dump him and leave party at 5? Or pick up Viconia or another tank? I'm almost considering dumping Jaheira and keeping Anomen? I dunno guys. I'm lost. Help!

Only my humble opinion:
drop Anomen and go get Viconia. (And romance her... can't tell you why if you don't want spoilers )
Viconia IS the best cleric in the game.
Save Anomen for when you'd want to play a female pc and romance him. His quest (and all of his problems) become more interesting, *if you are romancing him*.
Otherwise, not worth the effort.
(again, that is imho, obiouvsly)

*My* humble opinion...

Dump Aerie, Keep Anomen. Aerie sucks as a cleric anyways, plus she levels up too slowly for a fast-paced team (same applies for Jaheira).

Yes, Anomen is a great tank, and probably the most effective priest in the game when going up against Bodhi's minions. If you're looking for a tank, take him.

Viccie is evil, but everyone but Keldorn in your current party doesn't have a problem with her. Keldorn will attack her at one point, but you can replace Aerie with her if you're going against Bodhi, as her Turn Undead charms undead rather than destroys them right off the bat. If you get sick of her, just kick her out or edit her alignment to Nuetral in ShadowKeeper.

About the shield: No. There's only one in the game, and if it's gone, it's gone. Your only chance is by spawning another one in by CLUAConsole (Sabre would probably have this code if you need it).

About the quest: Either path is OK, but each has it's quirks. Here:

Passing the Test: Turns Anomen into Lawful Good into more of a...well, you know. I like the guy, but I rarely ever take this path. However, Anomen will change his name, get experience, change his alignment, and his Wisdom will go to 16 if this path is taken.

Failing the Test: I prefer this one better. Anomen doesn't get as many goods as Passing, but he becomes Chaotic Nuetral and quiets down when it comes to his noblity. Just know that his charactor starts lossing it, as that is what Chaotic Nuetral people are like.

(PS- If Anomen Fails the Test, he will attack Aerie and Keldorn, both until the death. Aerie can be ressurected, but Keldorn can't. That's what happens when you're on the brink of insanity.)

I had the same problems with my party so this is what i did:

Dump Jaheria, you can romance Aerie, keep Anomen. those two together will make up for Jaheria's loss

I took Nalia, she levels up faster than Aerie and her thief skills are adequate as long as you keep knock memorized and theif potions on hand.

But I assume you want to keep Yoshimo because of his storyline, so I guess Nalia is out

Then keep Minsc and Keldorn. Minsc is great with axes, I have him using skullcrusher( mace) and the flail of ages

Keldorn with holy avenger and crossbow if needed. Both of them have at least one special ability that is invaluable. Minsc = insect swarm, Keldorn=true seeing

get anomen a better shield, there's plenty available, and the mace of disruption+2

Well, if you get Keldorn and then with Anomen decide to kill Saerk, Keldorn will become extremely pissed and attack Anomen, or at least he did in my game. I know of no clues to find, but if their are any they will be in Athkatla, so snoop around. SPOILER, so don't read farther if you don't want it. Once you get to Brynnlaw and you feel your party is too low in levels, get into the Asylum using Pirate King, and once it gives you all the xp it auto-saves so just keep re-loading and you go up in levels quickly.

on the subjectof Saerk (spelling?), you dont have to as you can convince Anomen to forget about it if you choose the right dialog options. i have done this in my party, and as Anomen did not kill Saerk he can still gain his knighthood. hope this helps.

In my personal opinion

Keep Aerie, she'll get pretty good later on...

Switch Minsc for Keldorn and get yourself Carsomyr

switch Yoshimo for Imoen when you get the chance...and bring back Yoshimos heart to Athkatla

Keep Anomen, i just love his turn undead =)

Change Jaheira for someone else, you have two NPC:s with healing...Need no more.

And get Valygar or Some Magic/Fighter NPC...

Alright, thanks for the input folks. Keep it coming if you desire. The party suggestions are especially great. Right now I have the same party as I mentioned before and things are going fairly well, although I think something is up with my Jaheira romance. We'll see about that though. I think when I get a chance to get Keldorn I will switch out Minsc for him, and Imoen once Yoshimo betrays me. I kinda like Anomen so I will keep him around. No, not his attitude.. but his character/stats/abilities I like. He kinda fits in whatever nook I need him to at the time (aside from thiefhood, but he can be relatively effective both aggressively and defensively, he lacks range though.) I just got Flail of the Ages so he is twice as badass as he was before.

One thing I wanted to clear up is that I DID NOT let Anomen kill Saerk, my question was.. Are there any "clues" that you can provide for the government to get them to bring Saerk to justice or perhaps allow you to bring him to justice yourself without the negative consequences? I find it hard to believe that quest is THAT short. I guess it's possible but it just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyhow, any other party suggestions or whatever are welcome.

Originally posted by EtherImp
One thing I wanted to clear up is that I DID NOT let Anomen kill Saerk, my question was.. Are there any "clues" that you can provide for the government to get them to bring Saerk to justice or perhaps allow you to bring him to justice yourself without the negative consequences? I find it hard to believe that quest is THAT short. I guess it's possible but it just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyhow, any other party suggestions or whatever are welcome.

Nah. No clues: the path is straight-forward. The only thing to have to do is either talk to the Magistrate or kill Seark. No other investigating required.

Well, ty. That atleast answers my question. I just felt like I was doing something wrong when I told him not to take care of Saerk, and then the Magistrate said not to do anything without evidence..... No evidence.. etc..

I did however "investigate" Saerk's estate by pillaging and plundering it.. I killed every gaurd (Cuz they were hostile) and picked up some pretty valuable gems. RawR!

Does this cause him to lose knighthood as well?

As long as you don't kill Saerk himself, Anomen will pass.

@ Sabre-
(Highlight. I don't want to get in trouble with the moderators again...)

Just curious. Let's just say, hypothetically, that you romance Anomen and you make it so he passes the Test. What happens when you recieve the letter saying that Anomen's father has been murdered, the you kill Saerk when you find Anomen in his house? Does he lose his right to Knighthood or what?

@ Everyone-
(Highlight AGAIN)

Anomen's quest was actually vut short by the people who were making the game. If you went to kill Saerk Farrahd, then you would encounter: Saerk, his daughter, his son, and his guards.

After Anomen kills Saerk and his daughter, the son (what's his name again?) teleports away and vows revenge, but he never pops back up.

Too bad. I'd like to see that part continued, too......

Aqua-chan: [highlight] Let me see if I understand it correctly, you're saying that you do the following: Tell Anomen to go to Magistrate instead of confronting Saerk; Anomen takes test from Radiant Heart and passes; Anomen gets letter from messenger; Anomen goes to confront Saersk; you shows up and you both kill Saerk.

After this you'll get a dialogue from Anomen, basically saying that he have disgraced himself, and the Radiant Heart, and that he needs to comes to term with his own hatred. Basically the romance ends and Anomen leaves the party forever.

Woo hoo. That's a relief. For once I actually did somethin' right!

(I'm in Bodhi's Lair. Now would NOT be a good time to loose him.)