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Jaheira romance

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:50 am
by Superag1
This is my 2nd time through SoA... and my character is romancing Jaheira this time. I have almost finished the game (including the Harper quests) and yet there is no sign yet that the two have "consummated" their relationship. In fact, there has been no "sweet talking" between the two since she got her Harper pin. Is there a way to trigger the final romance? Thanks!

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:23 pm
by Yshania

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:38 pm
by Superag1
Thanks..... so even if Jaheira now has the Harper pin via Terminsel... and I have completed Chaps. 2-3-4-5... I can tripper the "propositioning" by pausing and walking away for a bit?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:23 pm
by hwttdz
I've never been able to get this to work and I've read everything about it. I guess it just takes too long but I just discovered this ctrl + i trick. What quests and the like do you have to do and then where do you have to rest or whatever to progress the romance?

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 7:44 am
by Sabre
Ctrl + I is only useful for random party interaction dialogues, it does not help with romance dialogues - which are script triggered. However, you can use the following code: CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("JaheiraRomance","GLOBAL",1) to speed up the timer that the romance is based on - press CTRL + SPACE and type in the code and press ENTER. Rest outdoors requently, it does not matter exactly on which map you rest, as long as you're not in the city itself.

Spoilers, highlight: It's best if you do the Poisoned Man and Zxar's quest as quickly as possible. Most of the events after that are dialogue triggered, and some dialogues are event triggered - so working out exactly what to do is a bit complicated. Basically, go through a few dialogues using the code above, then rest outdoors and see what happens.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:36 am
by EtherImp
I'm not too proficient with ShadowKeeper (never used it prior to now), but I need some advice. Heres my current situation:

Jaheira and I have been "love talking" for a while. I did the poisoned man and Xzar (sp) quests. I have been approached by Dermin a few times.. I think the last "love talk" I have heard was this:
29. Pause 'How ... how did that battle make you feel?' Dermin comes again and this time warns Jaheira that the Harper court has decided her fate.
In an earlier save (I had to go back and reload to earlier in the game), I DID have her leave my party and I went and saved her.. After I reloaded I haven't heard anything out of her since and she hasn't left my party yet. I continue to sleep outdoors whenever I can and she simply won't leave.

I am going to list all of the variables (that I know of) here for you guys so you can tell me maybe whats wrong, or if there's anything wrong at all. I normally wouldn't resort to this "hacking" of the game, but it kinda ticks me off that I had the romance going in an earlier save and now it may be gone for some reason, so I'd like to get it back.. The variables are:

jaheirabanditplot: 9
jaheiracursed: 10
jaheiranotharper: 1
jaheirareleased: 1
jaheirareturn: 2954293
jaheirareturns: 2
jaheiraromance: 2226757
jaheiraromanceactive: 1
jaheiratraitor: 1
derminappear: 7264814
derminspawn: 9
lovetalk: 52
harperhold: 3212291

I'm not sure if I am missing any variables or not but can you guys make anything of those numbers? Is there something wrong? If so.. What do I change to fix it?

I know it's probably alot to ask but I'd really appreciate the help.

Thank you much.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 5:57 am
by Sabre
I take it that you haven't installed the SoA Bugfix pack from Baldurdash. Unfortunately Jaheira's romance is really buggy - the link between dialogues and quests is not complete - this is why there is a problem with your romance, the quest is too far ahead of the dialogues. For some reason the dialogue hangs at the stage you're at, set LoveTalk to 53 and dialogues should continue normally.

By the way, what's the value of TerminselSpawn and TerminselAppear? They are both in the Globals section.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 12:05 pm
by EtherImp
I downloaded the official patch. I assume that's not the same thing?

terminselspawn: 3
I do not see a terminselappear value under global. I am going to set lovetalk to 53 as you suggested and see what happens. Thanks for your help.

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Update:

I changed lovetalk to 53, and left the rest of the values.. I went into the game and left it paused for quite some time, then I came back and unpaused, walked to various areas and tried resting... Nothing happened... :\ Apparently the game has decided my romance is over. Please help.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 3:24 pm
by ARcheR_S_
I seem to have a problem too.

This is how it goes:
In my former game Elminister kept respaning and respaning.......giving jaheira multipile Harper Pins and me loads of Experience. How do I stop this from happing in my next game??

Well I started a next game.......but the first: U have been waylait (or how do u say this??) by enemies sequence didnt occur......the next sequence should have been the poisoned guy who I should bring to the Harper hold....but this also didnt occur

So here is my question: What the h**l is wrong with my game??
And is it possible a Mod is the no-good-dooer?? (sola, kelsey, tashia, deepershadowsofamn)


-ARcheR_S_

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 3:26 am
by Sabre
EtherImp: Was the official patch for ToB or SoA? If it's for SoA, then I would recommend that you download the bugfix pack from Baldurdash - if you don't want the whole pack, then definately get the Updated Improved Jaheira Romance/Harper Plot, just scroll down a bit and download that fix. I would suggest you get the Baldurdash pack regardless of what patch you got, since it fixes a lot of bugs in the game.

Set JaheiraRomance to 0 and see what happens. If nothing happens, try setting LoveTalk to 55 and try again.


ARcheR_S_: The waylaid things are random, so try travelling some more. As far as I know it is more likely to occurs if you are travelling outside the city - there might be some timer to it, but I don't know for sure. I doubt it's the mod, since they are well made.

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 9:37 am
by Superag1
I have uploaded all of the bugfixes, including the Jaheira Romance file. So what do I need to do to trigger the "propositioning" dialog? I have fulfilled the Harper Plot events and Jaheira has the Harper pin. It seems I have had nearly all of the dialog sequences (except for the penultimate one!) ..... is there a CLUA Console command I can use to get that final dialog seguence?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 2:54 pm
by EtherImp
Okay. I installed that bugfix and set the the lovetalk value to BACK to 49, I want to see if it will proceed normally from there, and if maybe it just got stuck.. hrm

What about the other commands I listed? anything in there look strange?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 5:06 am
by Sabre
Set DerminSpawn back to 3. You'll see some of the events that you have already though. Also play for a while and then save the game and check if the value for JaheiraRomance and DerminAppear is decreasing or not; if not, set both to 1.