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So thats it then.. im told that very soon Ill have a test version of Senhaar to enjoy

He is going to come with a quest, which isnt done.. In which you can get another npc.. A cn Human barbarian (Who seems cheesy at first, but is alright once you check it out further)

But the barbarian, who comes with some powerfull starting items I will also test, just without the 'go get him quest' he has a few banters but not many, and obvoisly no romance.. but some of his banters are very funny

If it can be done the two will be 'tied up' like some of the bg1 npc's (IE, Xzar and Montaron)

But.. Something hi-larios that will be added to the quest is a character from bg1, I dont know if anyone remembers 'Rat child' but he is resurected in all his glory

Ill end with the words of ratchild himself

"Yip-yip-yip!"

Btw.. there is actually a point to this thread an its that any feedback would be nice, since we dont got no fancy ole website or big weimer clout, but ill rifle out the board where more techie stuff is being posted (Cannea remember atm) if there is one... if not, I can answer most questions you have as to the characters or quests and items etc

Just dont assault me with complicated qeuries about weidu and things like that couse frankly I got no idea

Is it a WeiDU mod?

What could I say?
A barbarian npc was missing in BGII, and an... "operating" ... bard was missing as well.
It should be no problem for any party to pick up and keep both of them.
And this is a good thing.

I think its a WeiDU mod.. I havent installed it yet nor have I bothered to ask, I assumed it was.. ill find out tommorow

Serje...

This isnt a conventional barbarian... He doesnt have rage

he has something called 'Frenzy' which he gets in place of his first two innate rages.. but he only ever gets 2, after that he gets normal rages

Frenzy
+5 to hit
+5 to damage
+4 strength
+1 attack
+10 ac penalty
-40% resist all (unmodifiable)

Btw.. His stats are... (He is actualy a Half-orc)

Str : 21
Dex : 10
Con : 20
Int : 5
Wis : 6
Char : 3

This isnt an uber invincible powergamers dream npc.. His dex is horrible and he has unremovable gloves so you cant give him the dex gountlets.. Combine that with that Barbs inability to wear full plate and the ac penalties for raging and you get...

A very offensive npc.. With no defensive abilities at all

Originally posted by gnomethingy
I think its a WeiDU mod.. I havent installed it yet nor have I bothered to ask, I assumed it was.. ill find out tommorow

Serje...

This isnt a conventional barbarian... He doesnt have rage

he has something called 'Frenzy' which he gets in place of his first two innate rages.. but he only ever gets 2, after that he gets normal rages

Frenzy
+5 to hit
+5 to damage
+4 strength
+1 attack
+10 ac penalty
-40% resist all (unmodifiable)

Btw.. His stats are... (He is actualy a Half-orc)

Str : 21
Dex : 10
Con : 20
Int : 5
Wis : 6
Char : 3

This isnt an uber invincible powergamers dream npc.. His dex is horrible and he has unremovable gloves so you cant give him the dex gountlets.. Combine that with that Barbs inability to wear full plate and the ac penalties for raging and you get...

A very offensive npc.. With no defensive abilities at all

He has got his Con, so he's not totally defensless.

Originally posted by Mikael Skiffard
He has got his Con, so he's not totally defensless.

True.. And d12 hit die

But he will need it...

Very Kensai like, but his damage will never get to the same lvls.. though, he can still take the bonus' of armour.. (Maybe mr from human flesh, immunities from aegers hide.. etc)

You really have to read the bio, he is a good char with allot of character.. Very minsc like

So he is as strong as a Fire Giant, super humanly uncharasmatic (meaning no one on earth will want to associate with him), super human constitution, and is dumber then an Orc.

Sounds like tons of fun.

Why dont you make his stats reasonable like 18/97, 11, 18, 9, 7, 7

Originally posted by GNGSpam
So he is as strong as a Fire Giant, super humanly uncharasmatic (meaning no one on earth will want to associate with him), super human constitution, and is dumber then an Orc.

Sounds like tons of fun.

Why dont you make his stats reasonable like 18/97, 11, 18, 9, 7, 7

Fire giants have 22 strength... And half orc intell can go to 1...

But that aside...

Im not making him

And he is already made

He is no different to the new Chloe npc (A 25 dex Kensai), exept he actually has a good reason for his stat increase and fair penalties to make up for it

I dont like any NPCs with super human characteristics. Even Black Isle admitted it was a mistake to allow that after BG1 by removing the tomes and making sure all NPC stats were within their apporpiate range.

Those ranges are there for a reason. Afterall, 18 is already very heroic.

Originally posted by GNGSpam
I dont like any NPCs with super human characteristics. Even Black Isle admitted it was a mistake to allow that after BG1 by removing the tomes and making sure all NPC stats were within their apporpiate range.

Those ranges are there for a reason. Afterall, 18 is already very heroic.

You have to understand though... that for a half orc, its only a +2 1 to str and con respectivly,

his total stats are only 60 something.. a miserable number I think youl agree (Compare to tob npc's 90 something, with deathbringer!)

His dex is effectivly locked at 10.. with a set of unique unremovable gloves that give +2 ac (That ac penalty mind you)

Whats more, he can wear plate mail and rage gives more ac penalties..

So yes, he rages for 25 strength... but his ac will be very, VERY bad infact, if this guy wore +5 chainmail. his ac would still be in +

Consider that by the time you get him (Late in spellhold, after you get imoen) your party will all be high lvl and sporting many powerfull items... He will not detract from your npc or make him look bad in any way, thats a promise

He has a good bio and background and his 'superhuman stats' are covered during an npc related quest..

He also comes paired, ie.. no removing one without removing the other with a bard (No kit)

Str : 13
Dex : 16
Con : 14
Int : 16
Wis : 15
Char : 17

I find it odd though that black isle say that... and then add the hell stat increases and lums machine.. Keep Viconias mr (She has been on the surface too long for it to still be around) and then go ahead and add mr 90+ stat roll 18/00 strength deathbringer

Anyways... once again, I didnt make the npc (Though I had some input on the bard) but unlike anyone else... (Today at any rate) I have USED him, so all im saying is given the above... at least give the char a chance before you write him off as overpowered

First, as with hell, you have to understand the PC is in the process of transcending into godhood. So its perfectly acceptable for him to begin to embody superhuman qualities.

Secondly, I am not suggesting the NPC is overpowered. After all you get tons of strength items including the Crom which is +25. I was arguing with his stats on principle rather then on any gaming aspect.

As with his total stats being 60, considering he has ridiculously low int, wis, cha, thats not that big a deal. His big 3 stats are a combined 51. If he had just 10 in the other 3 stats, very average, he would have a total of 81, a very respectable number (and one I would use for my PC).

Anyways, I wasnt meaning to offend, just offering personnal opinion.

Originally posted by GNGSpam
First, as with hell, you have to understand the PC is in the process of transcending into godhood. So its perfectly acceptable for him to begin to embody superhuman qualities.

Secondly, I am not suggesting the NPC is overpowered. After all you get tons of strength items including the Crom which is +25. I was arguing with his stats on principle rather then on any gaming aspect.

As with his total stats being 60, considering he has ridiculously low int, wis, cha, thats not that big a deal. His big 3 stats are a combined 51. If he had just 10 in the other 3 stats, very average, he would have a total of 81, a very respectable number (and one I would use for my PC).

Anyways, I wasnt meaning to offend, just offering personnal opinion.

Hey... If you want to give some Constructive and fair critisism about something else I didnt make, that wont offend me either..

If you get my point, I dont see how what your saying could possibly offend anyone.. Im just trying to let you see things from my point of veiw and no doubt, the creators..

But... Information is the key.. so ill give you some more,

His unremovable unique gloves give +2 to dmg, +2 crushing dmg, -2 to hit and +2 ac

Unique Hide armour, Ac 3.. gives -1 charisma and a 5% chance to cast insect plague on being struck (The description for this item, as you can probably guess is both funny and disgusting)

He also starts with a generic +2 bastard sword and a Generic +2 battle axe

Theres a quest involving the bard, where you can get a potion that give +1 to one stat (I dont know what it is yet) and they also give -2 to another

say... +1 strength -2 intell, though Im not sure.. Theres only one though and its not an easy fight to get it

This is the method, as will be explained in more detail.. by which Khei'gerro gained his strength increase.. at the cost of his brain, you will be able to correct his stats during the game but its a choice for the player ,+6 intell -3 strength isnt exactly a smart move for a barbarian

Ill close with a banter I heard on entering the underdark today

“I bin ere afore, is full o' drows what is all black and soft, deys all the same size too so deys always arguing about whos in charge, cos theres no way o' telling cept fer badges
an a whole lotta mess and dats stoopid, an couse dey never knows who is da real boss, if somone says shes da boss, she has ta hit em all anyways so dey lissun or leg it, so I rekon.. while deys all mukkin about wiv tricks an magic an, uhh an gods an all dat mess, we sneak up and wack da lot!"

That dialogue seems to portray well his intelligence. Much more a Minsc than an Edwin

Originally posted by Firinflablaze
That dialogue seems to portray well his intelligence. Much more a Minsc than an Edwin

On the subject of his intelligence when I got out of the underdark (Apart from a delighfull incident invlolving Senhaar which im not going to spoil for anyone)

I got a Dialogue in which Imoen says something to him he doesnt understand and its like

".....uhhhh....."

Then the next day when I wake up

"Hey! Scrawny girl make fun!!"

That cracked me up.. being that it took him about, seven hours to get the insult

It sounds like a really fun mod. When can we download it, and where?

Originally posted by Mikael Skiffard
It sounds like a really fun mod. When can we download it, and where?

Thers alot of bugs that I can see need to be flattened out in the npc's themselves, some cut scenes and such need to be added and the quest hasnt been put in yet

And the tob side of the dialogues still need to be sorted and I dont think there will be an soa release and an update, they will probably wait until its all done blah blah blah...

Much bollux needs to be done, by that point a website will probably be up as no one wants to put the time aside to do it until theres something to put on it.. if you get my drift

The point of all this is.. I dont know, not too long, since theres a few people hitting it quite hard and giving it a lot of time

I was already very interested in Senhaar, now this barb seems very, very interesting as well. He certainly has his strengths and his weaknesses. And that little piece of monologue cracked me up. Can't wait to get him!

Its very insane at the moment...

Theres a big time flame war between Senhaar and Jaihera as well as that Khei'gerro keeps laughing at mazzy for being short and also threatening to kill and eat, yes.. Eat Imoen, I have a funny feeling theres going to be trouble...

Ive got no idea how they did it, but when you idle.. Khei'gerro is scripted or something to attack Passive wild animals..

I cracked the first time I saw it I was outside Athkatla, ready to do bodhi and he just walked over and nailed a groundhog, then got into an agrument with jaihera..

Its very fun, there loads of dialogue flying back and forth.. but the Romance is too buggy and not working properly

I cracked the first time I saw it I was outside Athkatla, ready to do bodhi and he just walked over and nailed a groundhog, then got into an agrument with jaihera..

Hahaha, ok, now I want to play this mod too (and ive never really liked a mod before)