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Shutting Down
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 6:36 am
by Mr Sleep
I recently installed XP and for some reason it won't auto shut down now, the message about it being safe to switch off comes up but I have to hold down the power button for 4 seconds to switch it off whereas before it automatically did, any help?
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:15 am
by HighLordDave
1. Go back to Windows 98SE.
2. Flash your BIOS.
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:02 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by HighLordDave
1. Go back to Windows 98SE.
Heh, perhaps that is the problem

I am actually quite liking XP, what can I say I don't do a lot with it though.
2. Flash your BIOS.
Hadn't thought of that, not a bad idea. I will probably do that. On that subject how do the VIA 4in1 drivers react with XP?
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:17 pm
by HighLordDave
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Hadn't thought of that, not a bad idea. I will probably do that. On that subject how do the VIA 4in1 drivers react with XP?
I couldn't tell you; I've never installed XP on any machine. VIA's driver support is pretty good, so I image that the latest 4in1 release is pretty stable.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:04 am
by Mr Sleep
I'll try it and if my machine is fubar'd then you foot the bill

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 5:46 am
by HighLordDave
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
I'll try it and if my machine is fubar'd then you foot the bill
I'll write you a check.
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:41 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by HighLordDave
I'll write you a check.
Make it out to the normal charity (I can get VAT back then), I assume you will be using your normal off shore account?
So why haven't you used XP, it really is okay you know...
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:47 pm
by RandomThug
XP and me
XP is rad, I love my XP pro unlicensed muahah.
Anyhow.. my version at home never shuts down either, it goes through the process but reboots... I am accustomed to pulling out the plug now at just the right time...
I remember some how fixing this but it escapes me.. (Most likely the same place you could fix your prob mr sleep) I will research.
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:23 pm
by HighLordDave
@Mr Sleep:
It's a two-party, out-of-state check.
I like 98SE. I will be dragged kicking and screaming away from it. I don't have great personal dislike for XP, but I think that its system overhead is rather steep and I don't need any of the security or networking capabilities of an NT-based operating system.
For what I use a computer for (personal home use, gaming), 98SE is a very stable platform with low system requirements and few (if any) compatibility issues. I think that XP looks cool, but the performance trade-off isn't worth it to me.
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:40 pm
by Kameleon
Windows 2000 forever. Baby. Mr Sleep, why did you sell your soul to the devil and side with XP? It sucks, and you know it

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:02 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by HighLordDave
@Mr Sleep: It's a two-party, out-of-state check.
So your a Republican then I see?
I like 98SE. I will be dragged kicking and screaming away from it. I don't have great personal dislike for XP, but I think that its system overhead is rather steep and I don't need any of the security or networking capabilities of an NT-based operating system.
That is true, it is, however the OS does handle RAM correctly and I have not had a single crash yet (apart from glitchy games) plus the NFTS file format is better and faster.
For what I use a computer for (personal home use, gaming), 98SE is a very stable platform with low system requirements and few (if any) compatibility issues. I think that XP looks cool, but the performance trade-off isn't worth it to me.
I always liked 98 and my other computer runs 98FE but the move up to XP hasn't been as bad as I imagined it would be.
Kam, let's just say that it fell into my lap and I had no alternative like 2000. As much as I like 2000.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:10 pm
by HighLordDave
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
So your a Republican then I see?
That's not even funny. Be glad my wife doesn't surf GameBanshee or she'd hunt you down and strike you dead where you stand for saying something like that about me.
I have 384 MB of PC133 in one machine and 256 MB of DDR in the other and neither machine has any issues related to memory or system resources. I know people who try to run XP on machines with 128 MB or even 256 MB of RAM and their machines crawl. Personally, I wouldn't even attempt run XP on a machine with less than a 1 GHz P3 and 256+ MB of RAM. 98SE's low system requirements and low incidence of incompability make up for all of its other shortcomings.
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 3:46 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by HighLordDave
That's not even funny. Be glad my wife doesn't surf GameBanshee or she'd hunt you down and strike you dead where you stand for saying something like that about me.
So are you a new age hippy perhaps? Your wife sounds quite a lady
98SE's low system requirements and low incidence of incompability make up for all of its other shortcomings.
Yes it does. At least for low end PCs, anything below a gig and i think 98 is perfect. However the higher range PCs need something like XP or 2000 imo.
Anyway, I found out what the problem was, it is to do with Advanced Power management, anyone who wants the solution just holler.
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:45 am
by K0r/\/f1@k€$
Shoot, if you will, Mr Sleep. I have a similar problem on a Windows ME machine and perhaps this could help. Did you flash the BIOS in the end?
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 5:20 pm
by Mr Sleep
No, in fact I just switched on Advanced Power Management. It can be found under the normal power management resources. I found out about it on
http://www.annoyances.org which might be worth a check in your case.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 2:35 pm
by K0r/\/f1@k€$
Sorry but I'm too dense to find the topic there

Could you throw me a link please?