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skill-boosting feats
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 2:57 am
by Mirk
do skill-boosting feats (discipline) count as skill points for the purpose of feat pre-requestees, or just give bonuses for checks?
i.e. does a fighter with a discipline feat (+2 to concentration) need to invest 4 points in concentration, or just 2, in order to get maximized attacks?
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:21 am
by Mirk
what, no takers on this one? there's a prise for the right answer
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:28 am
by lompo
He needs just two.
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 8:20 am
by Mirk
thnx lompo
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:28 am
by Mr.Waesel
Nope, he needs 4. You see, the points you put in skills when you level are
Ranks, while the feat grants a
Bonus. If maximized attacks requires 4 ranks, the disciplined feat won't help.
now gimme my prize
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 8:32 am
by Stilgar
Weird, my sorcerer has only 4 in spellcraft, but he can take the feats that require 10 in spellcraft (+5 [Elemental] resistance +20%[Elemental] damage)
But my rogue has a alchemy of (9)5 but he can't take the envenom weapon feat
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 9:08 am
by Mr.Waesel
Hmmm...they must've messed it up...
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:31 pm
by baileyatbrats
How about this?
The feat does not require you meet the pre requisite to use the feat as long as you are capabale of aquiring the feat.
So.... My druid chose wild shape Shamblingmound before I could actually turn into that monster (I may have chosen it below 8th level, or maybe didn't have the other neccessary skills yet.) - or that was a bug.
The Wizard example from Stilgar supports this. He may have chosen the feat, but he probably isn't getting the benefit. You could tell by putting your sorecerer in the way of one of those forms of attack and see if there is damage resistance on the feedback screen. .. save first.
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:33 pm
by Stilgar
Originally posted by baileyatbrats
How about this?
The feat does not require you meet the pre requisite to use the feat as long as you are capabale of aquiring the feat.
So.... My druid chose wild shape Shamblingmound before I could actually turn into that monster (I may have chosen it below 8th level, or maybe didn't have the other neccessary skills yet.) - or that was a bug.
The Wizard example from Stilgar supports this. He may have chosen the feat, but he probably isn't getting the benefit. You could tell by putting your sorecerer in the way of one of those forms of attack and see if there is damage resistance on the feedback screen. .. save first.
He get's the benefits, tried it
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:48 pm
by baileyatbrats
Weird.
I'll have to check that out when I get home.
What level is your wizard and why so few spelcraft ranks?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:55 pm
by Stilgar
Originally posted by baileyatbrats
Weird.
I'll have to check that out when I get home.
What level is your wizard and why so few spelcraft ranks?
He's a sorcerer, and he's the leader, and I wanted a good dex to for using bows, so he has low intelligence (12) so I punt everything on diplomace concentration and bluff.
Spellcraft isn't that important for a sorcerer if i'm not mistaken
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:09 pm
by baileyatbrats
Very odd.
Maybe the feat is applicable to your sorcerer for reasons other than those described in the game data.
"Important Attribute(s): Charisma, Dexterity, Constitution" for sorcerer
Looks like a look into the Player Handbook is in order.