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Slayer
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:17 pm
by Leonardo
Does anybody consistently use it besides (spoiler):
- The Illithid lair in Underdark
- Demi-lich bashing
if at al?
Even with Ascension installed, I hardly find it useful. Not even against Improved Irenicus.
Fighters fight best without it, mages and clerics should be able to do more damage by casting spells. Maybe thieves could benefit for it, but the only one I've played was a f\t multi, so he fought better without it anyway.
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:34 pm
by Ieo
I don't use it at all; it was useful as a plot device during Spellhold, IMO, but after that, meh... Honestly, to keep it more interesting I think they should have left the transformation a semi-random occurrence, and perhaps tied a little more to the romances? Dunno. I only liked it as a plot device, though, even a weak one at that.
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 3:41 pm
by Screaming Johny
I don't even bother transforming for Lich bashing or the Illithid lair. I used it a couple of times in my first game (when I didn't even know about the Illithid cheese), but have found it useless ever since.
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:35 pm
by garazdawi
I think I pnly turned into a slayer once. It was enough to see that the change sucked.... no spells and no weapons...... pssss, ataleast ascention adds to it abit.....or was it some other mod.... not sure....
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 5:57 pm
by Baldursgate Fan
Never used it voluntarily. Turned into slayer in the bodhi lair and didn't like it; I started killing my own party. No fun.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 3:41 am
by globester
I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him
) and he does the bashing.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 3:56 am
by garazdawi
Originally posted by globester
I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him ) and he does the bashing.
ohhh
I never thought of using it like that...... I too almost always have an eveil party, bt alas I'm too good natured in RL so I get loads of rep points.....
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:27 pm
by globester
who voted "what" btw?
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:46 pm
by garazdawi
Originally posted by globester
who voted "what" btw?
probably some prankster, or someone new to the game....
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:46 pm
by HellMonkey
Ive used when i played bg2 my first time through. but later on it is preetty useless, but its fun to watch some 4 armed creature ripping another to shreds.
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 7:12 pm
by Daragen
I usually only use it for rep loss. I looks cool, but otherwise is pretty weak. I use the ctrl+R cheat for permanent shapechange on my thief as soon as he gets use any item. Heh, really fun.
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 12:00 am
by UserUnfriendly
cast prot from magic energy or energy to allow you to stay slayer longer....
the damage the slayer form takes is magic damage, but you can still get killed if you stay slayer too long...
also, if you have tactics mod, and in a fit of masochism installed improved beholders, it will protect you from hive mother imprisonment....
still nowhere nearly as useful as spell immunity abjuration
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:59 am
by Taco Magus
Originally posted by globester
I only use it to lose some rep points if rep gets too high again :/
I do this because I always have Korgy in my party(love him ) and he does the bashing.
Thats what i use it for
ive been playing an all evil party alot recently, another good ways is in under dark where u get to throw the slaves in to the fire pit
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:07 pm
by Ron_Lugge
Originally posted by Baldursgate Fan
Never used it voluntarily. Turned into slayer in the bodhi lair and didn't like it; I started killing my own party. No fun.
When you transform voluntarily you don't start attacking other party members; instead, you get the abilities (which seem to be immunity to imprison; as far as I can tell thats it) of the slayer with just a quick reputation drop.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:47 pm
by fable
Ron's right. (And welcome to GB.) The keyword is "voluntarily." At first when you change, you have no control over the monster that's surfaced. After a couple of times, however, you get hold of it. FWIW, my suggestion is to send your party screaming for the hills when those first changes hit your PC. When the icon for the change appears among your powers, you'll know that you've got a conscious handle on it.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:50 pm
by Latro
Seldom use it as i find that by the time you get this ability you are better in original shape.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:50 pm
by Taco Magus
yea fables right...run to the nearest door and shut it...the slayer is to stupid to open it(i think your int drops alot)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:56 pm
by Ron_Lugge
The trick about closing the door / keeping your party well away from the slayer transformation has one big disadvantage - it prevents any romance / NPC interreactions.
edit:
Personally, I prefer just running away.
Of course, if you accidently left the boots of speed on the PC...
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 1:21 am
by Mini Me
i never used it. if it could penetrate protections or some other ability on each hit it would be good, but otherwise its just like a summoned undead to me and my character is far superior
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:07 am
by Jess
I used it a lot in the first game, when I thought a fighter mage cleric was a good idea. I still prefer to use it in the Illithid lair, my rep is usually 20 by then anyway.