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Fallen Paladin (Spoiler)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 7:47 am
by Detrius
Does anyone know if there is a way to regain fallen paladin status, I am trying to get the best character exported and if I "sacrifice" myself in hell for Mince then I lose stats and if I don't I lose my paladin status. I could export my character before this but then I miss out on the bonus's from the tears ( +1 wis would come in useful later as I would get more priest spells wouldn't I ). My dexterity is 19 and my wisdom is 20, so its either that or fallen paladin and dex19 wis21, or paladin and dex18 wis 21. Any suggestions?

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 7:50 am
by Omar
You can't regain your status of Paladin in BGII. You should go for the paladin with dex 18 and wis 21. Dex 18 or 19 doesn't make much of a difference for your paladin!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 7:52 am
by Detrius
What character classes does it make a difference for, is it just the thief?

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 7:54 am
by Karembeu
Without editing or "cheating" your character, a fallen Paladin will not be able to become a Paladin once again....(correct me someone if I'm wrong)...

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 8:05 am
by Weasel
In the game you cannot regain your status..

Now (I believe) in PnP you can.

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 8:05 am
by Detrius
Never tried "cheating" before seems rather against the spirit of the thing, having said that it is tempting but I think it'd probably mean less enjoyment of BG3 when it eventually comes around.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 8:07 am
by Weasel
Dex will help you in Armor class also.

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 8:08 am
by Detrius
Sorry showing my ignorance again but PnP is?

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 8:11 am
by Weasel
Pen and Paper ... no big deal I had to learn all of this (short cuts)

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:03 pm
by Nighthawk
Dex helps in AC, but 18 and 19 are both +4. I believe 19 gives +1 missile Thac0 and I know it is good for thief skills.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2001 6:20 pm
by Weasel
Thanks Nighthawk... I knew it helped AC .. I just didn't look to see if 18 and 19 gave the same bonus.

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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:59 am
by The Barrister
Yes, you can redeem your "Fallen Paladin" - at least early in the game. I imported my BG1 Paladin. He fell early in Chapter 2, when I wasn't paying attention. (He inadvertently killed the boy's mother in the circus tent, among other transgressions Image, reducing his Rep to 6) He completed Korgan's quest and then went to the Temple District for the first time. I noticed his changed status when no one would speak to him on his first visit to the Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart. I consulted these boards and despaired of ever redeeming his status but I decided to press on. He made enough donations to raise his Rep to 14, revisited the Order, and set out on Sir Ryan's quest. Alas Image he completed the quest but remained a "Fallen Paladin". Figuring that he would have to do more grunt work for the Order to achieve redemption, he set out for Windspear Hills. Of course, he was in trouble with the Order for unwittingly killing his brethren, but pressed on like any good Paladin. He completed Garen's quest, leaving the battle with Firkraag to another day. To my great relief Image his redemption was complete! Needless to say, I am keeping a close eye on his status. I don't want to find out if he can redeem himself again! Image

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 3:05 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by The Barrister:
Yes, you can redeem your "Fallen Paladin" - at least early in the game. I imported my BG1 Paladin. He fell early in Chapter 2, when I wasn't paying attention. (He inadvertently killed the boy's mother in the circus tent, among other transgressions Image, reducing his Rep to 6) He completed Korgan's quest and then went to the Temple District for the first time. I noticed his changed status when no one would speak to him on his first visit to the Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart. I consulted these boards and despaired of ever redeeming his status but I decided to press on. He made enough donations to raise his Rep to 14, revisited the Order, and set out on Sir Ryan's quest. Alas Image he completed the quest but remained a "Fallen Paladin". Figuring that he would have to do more grunt work for the Order to achieve redemption, he set out for Windspear Hills. Of course, he was in trouble with the Order for unwittingly killing his brethren, but pressed on like any good Paladin. He completed Garen's quest, leaving the battle with Firkraag to another day. To my great relief Image his redemption was complete! Needless to say, I am keeping a close eye on his status. I don't want to find out if he can redeem himself again! Image
Hey this is great...e-mail Gamebanshee and they might post this in the walk through. Image

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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 3:15 am
by Rail
Weasel, there *IS* hope for you yet. Let go of the dark side.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 3:25 am
by Weasel
@Rail...It too late for me now.. Image

Beware of the dark side Rail...beware. Image

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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2001 12:20 pm
by Karembeu
Weasel you are right...once you start down the path of evil...forever will it dominate your destiny...........if you only knew the power of the dark side.... Image