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Dager +1 in Candelkeep?!?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:35 pm
by Stilgar
When i went ouside of candlekeep (chapter 1). I saw a dagger+1 in my inventory.
I cant remember ever getting a dagger+1 in Candlekeep, and i cant remember finding it.
Where did I get this dagger from?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:49 pm
by Galuf the Dwarf
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That would be from Fuller in the barracks if you get him the bolts that requests, and have 18 Cha. Definitely something you want as a thief or maybe as a mage. Maybe even good for Imoen or Xzar in the beginning.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:05 pm
by Stilgar
Oooh, that's why i never got it.
I always have around 12/14 charisma, only my latest paladin has a charisma of 18 (a roll of 96 and the 2nd try whoohooo)
That's powergaming even if i dont want to.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 7:55 am
by Galuf the Dwarf
Yeah, so you're best chances look to be with these classes:
1) Paladin
2) Bard
3) Druid
All three of these, as you know, require high charisma, so they often reep the best awards for quests or anything else involving dialogues. Not much else to say other than that.
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:24 am
by wise grimwald
I was aware of the charisma needed to get the dagger, but have recently had a thought, due to becoming exceedingly wealthy in Candlekeep (over 1000gp). If I used that money to raise my reputation, could I get the dagger and the cure poison potions in the Friendly Arms without having an 18 Charisma?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:56 pm
by anarchistica
Galuf the Dwarf wrote:Yeah, so you're best chances look to be with these classes:
1) Paladin
2) Bard
3) Druid
All three of these, as you know, require high charisma, so they often reep the best awards for quests or anything else involving dialogues. Not much else to say other than that.
What would Bards and Druids want with high Charisma? Especially the latter need all the stat points they can get...
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:04 pm
by Tate
anarchistica wrote:What would Bards and Druids want with high Charisma? Especially the latter need all the stat points they can get...
Don't bards use charisma for their spells? I'm not sure, that may not be the case with 2nd edition D&D rules.
But I'm fairly sure all those classes have a fairly high minimum requirement of charisma.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:19 pm
by anarchistica
This is 2nd edition, you know, the poor one.
Charisma is only used for how NPCs react to the player. All that stuff about CHA affecting Turn Undead, Paladin saving throws, Sorcerer/Bard spells, etc. is 3rd edition.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:49 pm
by galraen
Yep, charisma affecting your spells and such non-sense only came with Turd edition.
In 2nd edition Bards and Druids have a minimum charisma requirement of 15, apart from reaction and follower influence, charisma also affected psionics if you used them.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:11 pm
by kmonster
wise grimwald wrote:I was aware of the charisma needed to get the dagger, but have recently had a thought, due to becoming exceedingly wealthy in Candlekeep (over 1000gp). If I used that money to raise my reputation, could I get the dagger and the cure poison potions in the Friendly Arms without having an 18 Charisma?
The charisma and the reputation modifier are added to decide if you get the positive reaction.
So you need 14-15 reputation with 16-17 cha, 16-17 with 15 cha, ...
Getting the antidotes in the FAI should be quite easy since Imoen has 16 cha.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:18 am
by wise grimwald
kmonster wrote:The charisma and the reputation modifier are added to decide if you get the positive reaction.
So you need 14-15 reputation with 16-17 cha, 16-17 with 15 cha, ...
Getting the antidotes in the FAI should be quite easy since Imoen has 16 cha.
Thanks. That info will be most useful for future games. I only had a charisma of 3, so didn't get the dagger, but of course Imoen + Algernon's cloak is sufficient to get the potions.
What would Bards and Druids want with high Charisma? Especially the latter need all the stat points they can get...
There are a lot of goodies to be had with high charisma, the scroll of magic protection when you save a cat for instance.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:31 am
by Crenshinibon
Not to mention that a high charisma gives you a nice discount at the stores, which is very nice for recharging your wands.