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i finished planescape yesterday, saw all of the endings. but, i tried to use the bronze sphere after getting the knowledge from the practical incarnation, and i still couldn't examine it further.

can anyone spoil for me what the first incarnation offers for knowledge? i'd like to know it, because the end going back to the blood war didn't much sense at all in my mind.

You do not need to learn anything from the Practical Incarnation to use the Bronze Sphere (despite what some guides and people will tell you). What you need to do is first have this conversation with the Good Incarnation, in which you learn that he is the Original Incarnation;
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Nameless One: "Before you said that when we die, traces are left in the mind. That's what caused you all to emerge. Right?"
Good Incarnation: "My understanding may not be complete, but yes, that seems to be the case. And we may make ourselves felt in small ways."
(The following dialog option requires 17 Intelligence.)
Nameless One: "So, is it possible that the first of us - the real one of us, before all the incarnations, might still be buried somewhere in my mind."
(At this point you gain 96,000 experience points.)
Good Incarnation: The expression on the incarnation's face flickers for just a moment, but it is like a window, and you suddenly realize who it is you are speaking to.
Nameless One: "*You* were the first of us."
Good Incarnation: The incarnation's eyes take on a haunted look, and his gaze turns away from yours. "I know what you are thinking - but it is not the case. You think that knowing the mind of the first of us will somehow help you here, in this place. It will not."
Nameless One: "But why - I have so many questions that YOU can answer. Why did we become immortal? Why?"
Good Incarnation: "Because if we die, *truly* die..." The incarnation looks up at you, and his eyes are like steel. "Death's kingdom will *not* be paradise, not for us. If you spoke to these others that were here, know that a fraction of the evil of their lives is but a drop of water compared to the evil of mine. That life, that one life, even *without* the thousands of others, has given a seat in the Lower Planes for eternity."
Nameless One: "But you seem so much... calmer. More well-intentioned."
Good Incarnation: "I became that way, yes. Because for me..." His voice takes on a strange echo. "It is *regret* that may change the nature of a man." He sighs. "But it was too late. I was already damned."
"I found that changing my nature was not enough. I needed more time, and I needed more life. So I came to the greatest of the Gray Sisters and asked her for a boon - to try and help me live long enough to rectify all the damage I had done. To make me immortal."
Nameless One: "And Ravel did. But when she first tested your immortality and killed you, you forgot everything. *Everything.*"
Good Incarnation: He looks broken. "And the Planes have been dying ever since. The crime is great, and the blame is mine."
Nameless One: "There are so many questions I have for you - who are you, what was your *life* like? Who-"
Good Incarnation: The incarnation shakes his head, cutting you off. "When I become no more, when I merge with you, you will have the answers you seek. It may take some time to sort them out, but they are there." He smiles ruefully. "It is difficult to communicate a life with words."
Nameless One: "Very well, then... we shall become as one. Are you ready?"
Good Incarnation: "One last thing... just this..." The incarnation pauses for a moment, searching your features. "Before I return to oblivion - there is something I would know."
Nameless One: "I can spare a little time for this - what do you wish to know?"
Good Incarnation: He studies your eyes, his expression somber. "Did you *live* your life - the brief life you have had? In the end... was it worth it?"
(At this point you have several options. I'll just choose one. They all have the same effect.)
Nameless One: "It seemed so.... short. What little I experienced, I enjoyed, and I do not wish to forget it."
(At this point you gain 32,000 experience points and +1 Wisdom.)
Good Incarnation: He nods, and for a moment you think he's going to say something, but then he collapses, the life running out of him and into yours. As he falls to the black stones, you feel a crawling sensation in the back of your skull, making you shiver, and you know the incarnation is no more.
Nameless One: "Farewell..."
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After that you can use the Bronze Sphere;
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Bronze Sphere: As you hold the sphere up this time and examine it, you feel the memories of the first of your incarnations stirring within you, but it is not an insistent or driving force - it is calm, like the thoughts of a man walking across a great distance to speak to a friend he hasn't seen in ages.
As you feel his presence in your mind, you see the sphere in a different light - not as ugly, or hideous, but as something precious, like a newborn child - the sphere is the repository of your last moments, before you met Ravel on the Gray Waste and asked the impossible of her.
You know why you asked her. And you know that all you need to do is touch the surface of the sphere with both hands and *feel* regret, and the stone will open itself to you.
Nameless One: Clasp the stone and feel regret.
Bronze Sphere: The sphere wrinkles in your hands, the skin of the sphere peeling away into tears and turning into a rain of bronze that encircles you. Each droplet, each fragment that enters you, you feel a new memory stirring, a lost love, a forgotten pain, an ache of loss - and with it, comes the great pressure of regret, regret of careless actions, the regret of suffering, regret of war, regret of death, and you feel your mind begin *buckling* from the pressure - so MUCH, all at once, so much damage done to others... so much so an entire FORTRESS may be built from such pain.
Nameless One: Try to focus, keep your center.
(At this point you gain two million experience points.)
Bronze Sphere: And suddenly, through the torrent of regrets, you feel the first incarnation again. His hand, invisible and weightless, is upon your shoulder, steadying you. He doesn't speak, but with his touch, you suddenly remember your name.
...and it is such a *simple* thing, not at all what you thought it might be, and you feel yourself suddenly comforted. In knowing your name, your true name, you know that you have gained back perhaps the most important part of yourself.
In knowing your name, you know yourself, and you know, now, there is very little you cannot do. The first incarnation's hand is gone from your shoulder, and he is watching you with a slight smile.
Nameless One: "That was my name all along? But if I was-"
Bronze Sphere: The first incarnation holds his finger to his lips, silencing you. He nods at the symbol at your arm, as if indicating you should make use of it.
Nameless One: Examine your arm.
(At this point you get the item "Symbol of Torment", which can invoke the spell "Rune of Torment" many times.)
Bronze Sphere: The symbol - the symbol of Torment - seems brittle somehow, as if it is only barely holding itself to your skin. Unconsciously, you reach out and peel it from your arm.
It gives way with a slight resistance, like pulling off a scab. As you hold the symbol, you know you can harness its power. It no longer rules you.
Nameless One: "I no longer wear the symbol. Does that mean...?"
Bronze Sphere: As you halfway through your question, you realize there is a heavy silence within your mind -- you can no longer feel the presence of the first incarnation within you.
Nameless One: Take the symbol of Torment.
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thanks man, this is exactly what i hoped i could get.
too bad the end boss is so easy though, and getting the good end means you don't even fight him at all.
played a NG warrior to get there.
next time i'll play i'll be a chatotic evil mage, maybe with harder difficulty then normal.

So...you never DO get to know his name?

Or is it Kayzer Soze?

Tripwood said:
i finished planescape yesterday, saw all of the endings.

From the walkthrough:
Getting the Transcendent One to merge with you gives you one of the better endings

How many different endings has this game?

I've seen two of them:
-Kill the Trascendent one
-Merge with him

Is there any other in which you don't end up in the Blood War?

MacHurto

Merge with TTO:
1. Threaten him with the "Blade of the Immortal."
2. Threaten to unmake yourself with your will (min. WIS of 24).
3. Threaten him with your true name (must have used the Bronze Sphere).
4. Convince him things will be ok if you merge (min. CHA of 24).

Kill yourself:
1. Use the "Blade of the Immortal."
2. Unmake yourself with your will (min. WIS of 24).

Kill TTO:
1. Kill him by normal combat alone.
2. Resurrect one of your companions while talking to him. Pick Morte first as he is not really dead, then you can pick someone else too.
3. Resurrect all your party members by tricking him to go check the Shadows (need to have found the "Sounding Stone" in the room with the crystal).

Finale Cinematics;
-merging with TTO is [merge with TTO]+[blood war]+[credits].
-killing TTO in combat is [TTO dying]+[blood war]+[credits].
-killing TTO by willing yourself out of existence or using the "Blade of the Immortal" on yourself while in dialog with TTO is [TTO dying]+[credits].

Finale Cinematics;
[...]
-killing TTO by willing yourself out of existence or using the "Blade of the Immortal" on yourself while in dialog with TTO is [TTO dying]+[credits].

And what happens with you? You just dissapear from existence? They could have done some kind of cinematic for that :-(

Thanks for the answer

How many times have you played this game? You seem to know everything about it ;-)

MacHurto

I've only played it three or four times, but I've been posting on the forums for years and also browsing the game's files with programs like Infinity Explorer and Near Infinity.