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Identify
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:30 am
by davfra
Hi, I`m just outside the Nashkel Mines. I have a level 3 bard who has memorised the identify spell. I`ve just killed someone called Grey Wolf. I have his sword, which I need to identify. When I click on identify, all the options are shaded out.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
davfra
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:40 am
by Xandax
Sorry for asking the obvious - but you have tried rested with him first?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:22 am
by pgroves
Originally posted by davfra
Hi, I`m just outside the Nashkel Mines. I have a level 3 bard who has memorised the identify spell. I`ve just killed someone called Grey Wolf. I have his sword, which I need to identify. When I click on identify, all the options are shaded out.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
davfra
If his a bard, is he wearing armour (and therefore not able to spell cast)?
Paul
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:34 am
by davfra
Spot on, Paul.
Many thanks.
davfra
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:46 am
by pgroves
Originally posted by davfra
Spot on, Paul.
Many thanks.
davfra
Cool, I've done it myself enough times. BTW Greywolf has a very nice sword
Paul
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:59 am
by Curry
so does drizzt
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:36 am
by Idioteque
So does Sarevok
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:16 am
by Curry
Savervok's sword of chaos +2 isnt that cool actually
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:36 am
by Mister Popo
Don't wanna go of topic, but the sword of Chaos is nice under certain circumstances in ToB.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:58 pm
by Idioteque
The Sword of Chaos +2 is what you get in BG2 however in the description it says it has lost much of its power since Sarevok wielded it hinting that it was more powerful in BG1. Anyone know the stats of his sword and any other equipment he might have in BG1?
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:44 pm
by VonDondu
Originally posted by Idioteque
Anyone know the stats of his sword and any other equipment he might have in BG1?
The most powerful NPCs and monsters are not constructed the same way as your own characters. They don't wield weapons the way your characters do; they don't carry droppable weapons that your own characters could use. For example, even though Drizzt is supposed to be wielding two scimitars, one of them is in his inventory rather than his hand, and the other one is on his head. (He must be wielding it with his teeth).

He's "built" to have 5 attacks per round (or is it 10?) at a specified amount of damage per hit. You can't give your own characters the same ability by giving them Drizzt's weapons; your characters aren't made the same way.
When you fight Sarevok, he isn't actually wearing any armor. He has a "natural" Armor Class (without armor) of AC -1. I think a +4 DEX bonus is subtracted from that because he has DEX 18, giving him AC -5. He does wear a helmet, presumably to protect against critical hits. His stats are 18/00, 18, 17, 14, 12, 13 (the last 3 are essentially meaningless). He has 285 hit points. I don't think he gets extra hit points for having CON 17; he's not an ordinary class such as Fighter--he's considered a 15th Level "Sarevok".
As for his "weapons", he's carrying a +5 two handed sword, but he also attacks you with a built-in weapon (called "Sarevok") that acts like a +5 two handed sword (+5 to hit, 1d10+5 damage). I think that's the reason why he has a base value of two attacks per round. He's also wearing a ring that makes him Hasted, so I guess that means he gets 4 attacks per round. I think a STR bonus is added to his attacks (+3 to hit and +6 damage for 18/00 STR). His base THAC0 is 2, so if you add his +3 STR bonus and his +5 weapon bonus, I guess he can hit AC -8 on a roll of 2 or higher. He has 90% resistance to fire, cold, electricity, and acid and 50% resistance to missile damage.
The Sword of Chaos +2 is purely an invention for BG2: Shadows of Amn; it doesn't exist in BG1. As far as I know, Sarevok does not have the ability to cast Larloch's Minor Drain; that's just something the Sword of Chaos +2 was given to make it a more interesting weapon. If you want to pretend that Sarevok wields a sword in BG1 that gives him some of his special powers, I don't see a problem with that (it makes sense, and it's interesting to think about what a weapon like that should look like), but that's not actually how Sarevok is "made", so anything we might say about it is purely speculation.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:16 am
by Xyx
In other words... they cheat like hell.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:17 am
by nephtu
Ha ha..
Cheating is such a harsh word
Think of it as balance.
You have the advantage of being clever & adaptable. They have the advantage of hitting like a Mack Truck and having insane stats, hit points, resistances, etc.
Oh, who am I kidding - they cheat like hell

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:21 pm
by VonDondu
Originally posted by Xyx
In other words... they cheat like hell.
No... they give us challenges. Sarevok is supposed to be the toughest monster in the game, after all.
Would you prefer that he be, oh, say, an 18th Level Deathbringer with a badass suit of armor and +4 two handed sword that casts Larloch's Minor Drain?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:48 pm
by Idioteque
Originally posted by VonDondu
No... they give us challenges. Sarevok is supposed to be the toughest monster in the game, after all.
He's not a monster he's my half brother

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:26 am
by Xyx
Originally posted by VonDondu
No... they give us challenges. Sarevok is supposed to be the toughest monster in the game, after all.
Would you prefer that he be, oh, say, an 18th Level Deathbringer with a badass suit of armor and +4 two handed sword that casts Larloch's Minor Drain?
I would prefer him to be powerful in an honest way. If it takes a badass 18th level Deathbringer to match the power the current cheesed up travesty holds, then I'd prefer the badass 18th level Deathbringer.
And why not? It wouldn't make the game harder, just more honest.