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Cleric spells Lvl 4 do not 'appear'!?!

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:21 am
by thepunk
hi there. got a prob with my cleric.
is on lvl 7 or 8 now, but when i want to choose the spells
to memorize from the spell book, the lvl4 spells aren't there...
i got 2 free slots to memorize lvl4 spells, but on the left side are no lvl 4 spells listed at all. wtf is going on here?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:42 am
by Tobias
What score is your cleirc's wisdom? If it is not high enough you cannot cast spells of certain levels.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:06 am
by thepunk
pretty sure its 18. but i will check it over again this evening.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:37 am
by thepunk
uhm...
just for the case...
are there items to improve the wisdom ?
could be the chance i set the charisma to 18, not the wisdom...

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:02 am
by Galuf the Dwarf
About spells in Edition 3.5

I think I know what's going on.

thepunk: You may need the patch, if you haven't already downloaded it. In case you're wondering, it's been out since about the first week of this month, and a link to it can be found in Atari's ToEE forum.

Also, Wisdom increased by stat buffs (i.e: Owl's Wisdom or an item enchanted by such) does not add spells. It only adds to Wis-based abilities (Heal, for instance), and Difficulty Class for divine spells cast (so, for instance, a cleric casting Silence would have his spell more difficult to roll a proper saving throw against).

Thought I might try and clear that up for you. If anyone wishes to add to this - in case there's something more to this than I realized (since honestly, my knowledge of this comes mostly from word of mouth, errr... I mean stroke of key, by reading posts in Atari's ToEE forum) - then go right ahead.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:38 am
by Tobias
You can craft a wonderous item that gives +6 wisdom.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:07 pm
by thepunk
yes, but i need the f...... scroll owls wisdom.
anyone an idea where to buy it? got no one with the spell around...

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:54 pm
by Tobias
I haven't found anyone with it and I haven't picked one up during the game.

Druids/Paladins/Rangers/Wizards as well as Clerics can get it at level 2. Maybe someone else in your party could scribe a scroll or craft it or and this is a longshot you could recruit an npc with it, I think Meleny is a Druidess?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:07 am
by thepunk
shame on me

ok, shame on me. i hex-edited the savegame to adjust my clerics wisdom to 18, like i had done during creation. simply swapped the wisdom with the charisma. comes from the first ad&d rpg's like pool of radiance, curse of the azure bonds and so on...
thought the most important stat was charisma...

i simply don't want to start over for the fourth time...

think the spells will appear when leveling up... hope this is correct...