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Where do you find all these cool swords?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:03 pm
by Evrion Tir'eir
well.. I've been looking for a cool dai-katan (or what it's called) like galss or other but there are no cool swords.. well I've found one. At the guard tower in Balmora but it's ugly and kinda bad. I know you probebly think that i'm a noob and i am but please help.. And are the Boots of Blindind Speed good? I know you put an anti magic spell on you so you wont get blind but where do i found oone of those?
Cheers..
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:36 pm
by Zaram
You can find nice Daedric weapon in Daedric Shrines.
And there are creatures called *Golden Saints (which offen is by an Shrine), and they offen got good weapons too,
Offen 1 handed swords and a shield.
And there are also a Stock of 1 handed long swords (glass) with diffrent spells on, in Ghast gate, where you also can steal glass armor or buy, and ?ordinatior armor?
but it's best to have some skill with the blade before start hauning treasous...
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:48 pm
by Det100
Yes skill is important, basically, all you have to do is keep and eye out for those little nooks in the landscape where smugglers hide. Loot those, deadric shrines, and dwemer ruins. They usually have some sweet stuff. A note though: I wouldnt go off looking for golden saints unless you have skill. They're tough for me and im level 72. They just have a lot of magick and they arent afraid to use it. Also, if your a skilled enouigh thief, you can raid the treasuries at the house cantons in Vivec. They have some cool swords. I found a glass clamore in the Hllalu one.
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:46 am
by UncleScratchy
Originally posted by Det100
Yes skill is important, basically, all you have to do is keep and eye out for those little nooks in the landscape where smugglers hide. Loot those, deadric shrines, and dwemer ruins. They usually have some sweet stuff. A note though: I wouldnt go off looking for golden saints unless you have skill. They're tough for me and im level 72. They just have a lot of magick and they arent afraid to use it. Also, if your a skilled enouigh thief, you can raid the treasuries at the house cantons in Vivec. They have some cool swords. I found a glass clamore in the Hllalu one.
You've got to be kidding - at level 72 you should be able to kill a golden with two whacks of Skullcrusher or three arrows from a daedric bow. The one thing a golden does do that is annoying is stop to dispel any magic spells you've cast on them (soul trap, burden, etc.). The only reason they are tough is that they often carry glass stormswords, dwemer claymores, daedric weapons, ebony swords, sometimes dreugh weapons and the like. If you are looking for a glass stormsword or shardsword then a golden is a good bet. They often have glass shields as well but more often than not they will be a dipply Shield of Light. Goldens don't even appear in the game until you've leveled up high enough for them to spawn (the game is geared to give you more difficult creatures to fight the higher your level). Goldens abound in the Grazelands and are a lot of fun to hunt. They can spot you from a great distance and will always charge you, so you have plenty of time to get off a few arrows and a soul trap spell. They are pretty good at dodging arrows and if you hit them with soul trap to soon they will stop to dispell it. Try knocking down their health with a few arrows and then finishing them off with a knife or sword with a cast on strike soul trap enchantment.
Dremora lords are just as tough if not tougher than goldens (they like to hit you with a couple of fire balls before they attack you with a weapon - you shouldn't have much trouble evading these slow traveling spells unless they are at point blank range). These guys almost always carry some kind of daedric weapon (dai-katana, katana, wakizashi, staff, spear, claymores, hammer, tanto, knife, mace, small and large axe, etc - but never bows). These are prized weapons and good for enchanting (try a daedric wakizashi with a cast on strike paralyze enchantment). If you get one that really sucks it will be equipped with a dippy druegh club or staff. The weapons they carry are randomized so you can save just before fighting one and if it has a lousy weapon on it you can reload and try again. One sure way to summon a dremora lord is to loot the alters of daedric shrines (this happens regardless of your current level).
You can easily punch a golden or dremora lord to death using your hand to hand combat skill if its at a decent level (around 70 or better). You will probably gain a couple of HTH profiency points during the fight. For some reason these guys seem to get knocked out fairly quickly and then its just a matter of time and a lot of punches before they die.
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:18 am
by Evrion Tir'eir
tnx..
Well well.. After doing some tresure hunt i killed a guy hwo had the "dagger of the monarcy" of someting.. quite nice for me.. then i killed that chick hwo had a glass shiled.. nice.. i shall continuing looking for som dedric weponds.. and tnx.. one thing. How do i Enchant a item when i dont have anny spell for enhanting?
Cheers
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:42 am
by SoulDreamer
you don't even need to get underground
well, that's good about being a thief....and with the help of some invisibility scrolls... that guy in Sadrith Mora - Divayth Fyr I think his name is. A very high respectable temple guy, and he's got TONS of valuable stuff. Yesterday I stole a cuirass worth 150 000 gold.... and I sold it to the museum of artefacts in Mournhold
anyway, I think you should steal some there, but you should be able to open lock 100 and so on
btw, The fighters guild in Ald Ruhn also have a whole glass armour set if you're interested
lock level 50 or so
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:51 pm
by UncleScratchy
Re: tnx..
Originally posted by Evrion Tir'eir
Well well.. After doing some tresure hunt i killed a guy hwo had the "dagger of the monarcy" of someting.. quite nice for me.. then i killed that chick hwo had a glass shiled.. nice.. i shall continuing looking for som dedric weponds.. and tnx.. one thing. How do i Enchant a item when i dont have anny spell for enhanting?
Cheers
Hmmm, there's a very nice item called the Ice Blade of the Monarch, but that's a two-handed sword, not a dagger. Don't know what you might have there.
To enchant an item you need to learn the spell first. You do not need to learn anything more than the cheapest form of the spell so don't learn different variations on the same basic spell. Once you bought the spell from a mage or and priest you will have one component of enchanting an item. You will also need a soul gem with a trapped soul in it. Then you take these items to a mage or priest who offers enchanting services (or you can try it yourself but you'll likely fail at anything but the simplest low level enchantments). Talk to the enchanter, select the unenchanted item you want to enchant (weapon, armor, jewelry, clothing, etc), select the soul gem you want to use and then select the spell you want to use. Then decide whether it will be a Cast on Strike enchantment or a Cast on Use enchantment. If you have a Grand Soul gem with an Ascended Sleeper or Golden Saint soul trapped in it you will also get the choice of making a Constant Effect item. Some items are better to enchant than others. Exquisite clothing and jewelry is very good. Glass generally sucks except for the shields (try to get a glass tower shield). Ebony is generally pretty good and daedric is excellent. Pauldins, greaves and boots are pretty bad regardless of what they are made from. Melee weapons are probably best with Cast on Strike enchantments like damage strength, paralyze, poison, calm humanoid. I generally make all my articles of clothing and jewelry specialty Constant Effect items (levitate, water walk, restore health, fortify attribute, water breathing, nighteye, etc.) Then I load them into quickslots so I can switch to what I need on the run if its a specialty item (water walking are a couple you don't want to wear all the time, only when you want to run across lakes or seas or float over mountains).
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:45 pm
by Det100
yeah the thing about the golden saints being tough is not that just one of them is hard, but when you're lvl 72 wondering out in the Grazelands, they're everywhere!! they're like the rats or cliffracers of the high lvl players!!! they;re tough to fightr when you are fighting two or three sometime four at a time my friend....
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:15 am
by Evrion Tir'eir
Correction..
I meant the "ice blade of the monarcy".. and its quite nice.. and i also killed a, for me, hard skeleton mage and got a vampire ring. not so nice as I thought though..
Ooo.. nice.. i think I should look it up..
Btw.. Where is the Mage Guild in Vivec? Hard to find.
Well 've got a lots of spells... and it ain't working! Maybe my spells ain't the kind of spells you could enchant with.. I've got a soul gem from the Balmora Mage Guild(the most expensive one) is it good?
Cheers..
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:23 am
by Det100
the Mages Guilld in Vivec is on the Foreign Quarter Plaza, its right on the top, you cant miss it.
As far as enchnting goes, you need a sould gem, and the quality is desisive in hte enchantment. You also need a sould trap spell. What you should do is attack something until its just about dead, then cast the soul trap spell. Finish it off and then you trap its sould. Then you can either try to enchant something yourslef or you can have a person at the mages guild do it for you. The higher quality sould gem and the harder the enemy sould that you have depends on waht you can enchant for how much.
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:16 am
by UncleScratchy
Originally posted by Det100
yeah the thing about the golden saints being tough is not that just one of them is hard, but when you're lvl 72 wondering out in the Grazelands, they're everywhere!! they're like the rats or cliffracers of the high lvl players!!! they;re tough to fightr when you are fighting two or three sometime four at a time my friend....
What on earth are you talking about? I never seen two golden saints at the same time let alone 3 or 4. I've heard others claim to have experienced two goldens appearing within a single tomb but not on the grazelands. I've seen two dremora lords in a single tomb (but not together - usually in separate rooms). The goldens always travel solo in the Grazelands as far as I've experienced. Traveling the Grazelands from top to bottom you might find a total of two or three goldens, 3 or 4 winged twilights, a few scamps, maybe a ogrim or two but they will be spaced well apart.
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:06 pm
by Det100
well that goes to show you that the game is completely random. Its only happened to me like two or three times but my point was that golden saints are tough if you are fighting multiple
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:41 pm
by ScionOfNerevar
I love Golden Saints. Killing them is fun.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:29 pm
by Seifer
Daedric Dai-katana-
Go to Pelagiad, then go east until you find a big place with walls around it. Go inside the walls, turn right and go into the watch tower. Kill the Dark Elf inside, search his corpse and you'll find the sword.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:47 pm
by Det100
Originally posted by ScionOfNerevar
I love Golden Saints. Killing them is fun.
Yeah but ive never found one when im actually looking for it! they seem to only come out when im trotting through the grazelands or some ruin minding my own buisness then WHAM!!! golden sait in my face!
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 5:08 pm
by Vash
Tel Fry (something like that)
If you go to Tel Fry there is a chest in the upper level that has a lock of 100 with a nice BP in, dont remember what it was exactly, but next to the guy in full Daedric is a chest with scourge in it, very nice blunt weapon for a low level. If i'm not mistaken he wont agro you if you try and pick and loot the chest either, dont hold me to that though, save it before you try and get the weapon.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:10 am
by Loredweller
It's possible to pick the locks in sneak mode, not too hard with high Chameleon even with modest Sneak. No much use of the mace for me, though. The sword is Daedric Crescend (sp.?) - two bladed enchanted. You have to kil a Daedra Lord to get it, though. Good to have in collection, altogether i like selfenchanted katanas more.
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:12 am
by Loredweller
Originally posted by Det100
Yeah but ive never found one when im actually looking for it! they seem to only come out when im trotting through the grazelands or some ruin minding my own buisness then WHAM!!! golden sait in my face!
The best way is to get a tomb where most of the inhabitants are daedric sort and hunt here. Enter, kill all,
dispose the corpses, go out, return... One such is just near Caldera (only one undead + 4 Daedras, i use to hunt souls there often).
There
are some places they always are here on your return, and there was a list of all fixed Grand SG in game together with the list of few places you're going to always encounter a Golden Saint, however i do not remember exactlly where.
Actually you need Golden Saints only if you're after the equipment they may carry. Souls of Ascended Sleepers are as good for enchanting and more eay to find (if your level is near 20 or more).