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Is it because I'm slow? (maybe spoiller)
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:06 pm
by blueteeth
KOTOR is my first RPG and I have not played video games in years, but I seem to get events happening in different order than what most people is reporting. For instance, After Daltooine I went to Tatooine and after deliverying the moisture equip. to the sand people, the chief said we could leave but all of them attacked me altogether.
I had to fight Carlo in Tatooine right after killing the dragon not in Manaan as I keep hearing. After Manaan, I decided to go to Korriban and take the Sith academy. there, I faced Darth Bandon when getting out to the Valley. Couldn't beat him with my skills (and without Bastila) so ran away to Kashyyyk and found him again after getting out of the elevator to the upper shadowlands. this time, with 3 jedis I was able to win.
after getting the starmap in Kashyyyk and freeing the wookie I found out that the little stowaway has disappeared. so I guess I won't be able to get back to Daltooine to finish this mission. by the way, kath hound in Daltooine was really difficult to kill no matter the weapon. some would even heal themselves.
I tried to go back to Koriban but have been captured into the Leviathan where I am right now.
I've reading the walktrhoughs I I have been completing most of the missions and thus getting the experience points. is it allbecause I'm too slow to finish them?
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:55 pm
by Foss
Well, its hard to say.
I also travelled to Tatooine right after Dantooine, and Tatooine is the worst/most difficult planet in my opinion, so I also felt it was quite hard at sometimes.
I also fought Calo Nord there.
I know that several of the things that happens in the game, depends on what planet you visit and how many you have visited.
Like, the capturing by the Leviathan, it only happens when you have visited 4 planets, but it doesn't seem to matter what planets. And the same seems to be with Calo Nord, that you fight him on the next planet you travel to after Daltooine. So some has fought him on Manaan and you and me have fought him on Tatooine.
Not sure what I can say more.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:58 pm
by Badseed
No, you are doing fine. Things aren't going to be the same every game because you can go to the planets in any order. Certain events happen after you get your 2nd map (Tatooine in your case) and the 4th (Darth Bandon). Even if you went to Mannan first, you would fight Calo there.
As far as the Sand People, it may be possible to "insult" them after you got the to agree to stop attacking. If you ask the wrong questions or even loot one of their baskets they may attack you.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:20 pm
by eidospsogos
in the pc version you are picked up by the leviathan after leaving the third planet to travel to the fourth.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:25 pm
by fable
Originally posted by eidospsogos
in the pc version you are picked up by the leviathan after leaving the third planet to travel to the fourth.
Not so. You're picked up after you do the tourist bit and get a good look at 4 star maps. Their order or selection of planets doesn't matter.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:32 pm
by eidospsogos
sorry. let me clarify. in the pc version you are picked up by the leviathan after the third planet you have collected a star map from. is that better?
that's what i meant. i didn't generally do alot of planet-hopping in this game. if i landed on a planet i generally didn't leave without the star map.
and i was picked up before getting to the final planet and the final star map. and it happened this way every time i played it.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:41 pm
by fable
Originally posted by eidospsogos
sorry. let me clarify. in the pc version you are picked up by the leviathan after the third planet you have collected a star map from. is that better?
No offense meant, but...unless there's a bug with your game (and we've had one or two discussed on this forum), you have to view 4 star maps on 4 planets, before the Leviathan gives you an offer you cannot refuse.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:47 pm
by eidospsogos
not on the pc version obviously. the strategy guide released specifically for the pc version even specifically says that after three star maps on three planets, NOT including dantooine, you will be picked up by the leviathan.
here is a quote from the official pc strategy guide:
"After you obtain three of the four star maps from the planets and enter hyperspace, the Ebon Hawk is intercepted by an Interdictor-class ship known as the Leviathan, captained by Saul Karath."
and i know these guides can sometimes be wrong, but i have played through the game 5 times, and never did anything in the same order, and regardless i was picked up on the way to the fourth planet.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:41 pm
by fable
"After you obtain three of the four star maps from the planets and enter hyperspace, the Ebon Hawk is intercepted by an Interdictor-class ship known as the Leviathan, captained by Saul Karath."
Three of the four star maps? Dantooine, Tatooine, Kashyyyk, Manaan, Korriban...that makes five star maps.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:10 am
by Armisael
Dantooine is a planet too... its star map is no less a star map than any of the others.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:12 am
by theagent
To the original(1st) post by blueteeth:
That is the beauty of this (and other good rpgs) game! Events don't have to happen at the same place (though they usually happen in the same time depending on the number of star maps you've found) but of course this does not apply to those that must happen on a specific planet. There is nothing you need to worry about! Explore the galaxy as you wish, try to solve the problems on your own, that way the game will be more exciting.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:48 am
by blueteeth
yeah, I just feel I'm facing the harder battles earlier which makes so much harder to get through. but on the plus side, I'm really enjoying this game.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:24 pm
by eidospsogos
okay. well then please read my entire post before commenting. then we could avoid senseless debates. i said numerous times that i was not including dantooine in my count. and i said numerous times that the leviathan picked you up before you made it to the final star map. and yet everytime, you disagreed.
so let me make this very plain for everyone. i did not include dantooine, because it is the linear part of the plot for the game.
and after getting three star maps, four including dantooine, i was picked up by the leviathan on my way to the final star map. and final planet on the map.
i thought this was all very obvious in my other posts. but obviously some people have trouble with visual learning.
and the "three of the four star maps" is a direct quote from the strategy guide, if you have a problem with the wording and feel that this somehow discriminates gainst the star map on dantooine, write prima. i am sure most people don't include it in their count because it's in the linear part of the game.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:33 pm
by eidospsogos
as for the original post. if you take the planets in this order, i find it somewhat easier. (though those holy and elite sandpeople warriors can be a pain, so have grenades and stims handy. the regular sand people are a piece of cake) : tatooine, kashyyk, manaan, korriban. this the easiest way to proceed through the planet order. calo will approach you after the krayt dragon cave, and bandon will not appear until after finishing the underwater research faciltiy on manaan.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:56 pm
by fable
Originally posted by eidospsogos
i thought this was all very obvious in my other posts. but obviously some people have trouble with visual learning.
Please read the
forum rules, Eidospsogos.
And if you'll read back to your first and second posts in this thread, you will observe that there was no mention made of ignoring Dantooine because of any linearity, or not including Dantooine in your count. Your advice was simply incorrect. That's why several of us corrected it, both here and in another thread where you said the same thing. We've all made mistakes from time to time on this board. That happens. The important thing is to correct it at once, so that other players aren't hamstrung by bad information.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:48 pm
by eidospsogos
sorry.
i actually forgot that i did not post the reason why i thought people were having inconsistencies with events and star maps in my first post in this thread.
i did post that reason in the other thread though.
you are taken on the leviathan after three star maps in the pc version. unless you include the one on dantooine. then you are taken after four. but for some reason most people do not consider that when they are making their star map count.
i do think alot of walkthroughs don't include dantooine as a star map in their count. and from reading posts on these forums and others, alot of players don't count it either.
as you said there is no good reason not to include dantooine. maybe because it's not until after this star map, that the non-linear collecting of star maps begins. i don't know.
you are right though, there are 5 star maps. but for some reason i never thought of putting dantooine's star map into the same category with the others until it was pointed out here.